Talk:Knock Out (Prime)
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Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? TheMZone 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
- I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --Peter Damian 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --Detour 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his Partner. --ItsWalky 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - Starfield 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --ItsWalky 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. TheMZone 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
- - ¡Usa El Queso! 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). -hx 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
- If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --ItsWalky 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
- Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.DinoFreakUSA 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
- Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?DinoFreakUSA 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
- "You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - Jackpot 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
- If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --ItsWalky 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
- Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). -hx 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
- Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. TheMZone 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --ItsWalky 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - Starfield 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his Partner. --ItsWalky 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
- Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --Detour 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of those" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - Starfield 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
GAY?
That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--Primo 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --Detour 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--Primo 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- Semysane 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--Spin-Out 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- Semysane 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--Primo 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- You are inappropriate for children. —Interrobang 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
- I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--Primo 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
- Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. —Interrobang 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
- I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--Primo 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
- What a great birthday present, this person. --ItsWalky 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
- All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--Primo 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --ItsWalky 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- Semysane 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --Detour 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. Geewunling 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
- Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --Detour 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least acting as if he's homosexual.98.222.213.161 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
- All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--Primo 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
On a COMPLETELY different topic...
Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
- ¡Usa El Queso! 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
- I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --ItsWalky 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
