Talk:Transformers (film)
For the love of God
Can we PLEASE not have "argh the movie sucks and the designs blow and it's ruining my childhood" plastered all over these pages?
For the love of God, part 2
Can we also please wait until things are actually published to start throwing movie stuff in here and there? I imagine quite a few of us are avoiding reading spoiler-intensive reviews of issues that are due merely weeks later. --ItsWalky 21:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Characters?
I'm unsure as to whether I consider, say, new movie Bonecrusher to be the same character as G1 Bonecrusher in the sense that he should like to Bonecrusher (G1) and be written up in that entry like any other continuity. I kinda feel like he, and probably Scorponok and maybe Brawl, aren't "the same guy" in the sense that Megatron, Starscream, and the Autobots seem to be. On the other hand, it's probably impossible to really make a good judgement on that until the movie actually comes out. --Steve-o 04:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's the gist of the comment I put on my update, yes. --ItsWalky 05:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I think it may be a good idea to just set up a (Movie) category or sub-category unless something super G1-specific happens. ----MCRG 04:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Chances are, we'll end up having to do (Movie) pages for all of these characters anyway, so I wouldn't really worry about it until the movie's been released. - Dark T Zeratul 05:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- We'll have to worry about it sooner! The IDW prequel comic comes out next month. I had a discussion about this with Steve-o in person a while back, but I figger I should give my idea here.
- I think everyone from the movie should be given their own page, under X (Movie) if they require the (Movie) tag for disambiguation purposes. This is not to say that they will be considered separate characters. For obvious carry-overs like Optimus Prime and Bumblebee, they will simply have Movie sections on their G1 pages that have, for example, "See Bumblebee (Movie)" under the header, like Optimus Prime's toy section. (Stuff like this will especially come in handy on Prime's page, which is too long for more material already.)
- My reasoning for doing this to all the characters? The Movie is a huge franchise, and something that will be THE most prominent and pervasive Transformers media, probably of all time, and so separating them will increase ease of use, especially for more casual browsers. This will also allow us to focus exclusively on these versions of characters in a better way, with concept design stages, once the Art of" books come out, maybe even have a "Differences between the movie version and previous versions of the characters" section, again which would be beneficial to more casual browsers. --ItsWalky 17:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- That all makes good sense to me. I am wondering, though, about what the continuity notes for the Movie-character articles should say. Would the Movie and its related fiction be a labeled as a portion of G1, or would it be called a new continuity family of its own? --KilMichaelMcC 17:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- That I'm not 100% sure on. Though if Bumblebee, Prime, Megatron, Starscream, and Jazz are considered versions of the G1 character, I would say that probably necessitates it being considered in the G1 continuity family based on that technicality. If it's its own continuity family, then it can't share any of another continuity family's characters without some dimension-hopping. --ItsWalky 17:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, this begs the question of what qualifies as "G1." From the sound of things, the movie has about as much in common with G1 as Armada did; in that it was definantly INSPIRED by G1 and definantly shapes a lot of things around what came in G1, but it also treads a lot of new ground and sort of does it's own thing. I mean, there's not a whole heaping lot fo different between Optimus in Armada and Optimus in G1. Likely there is going to be about the same ammount of difference for Optimus in the movie. I vote we give the movie it's own continuity family. Of course, that means we need to name it. Transformers (2007 Film) Continuity Family?--UndeadScottsman 17:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- "Dreamworks continuity"? --M Sipher 01:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, that hs a similar issue as calling it the Film continuity, as Dreamworks isn't responsible for all the content for it. Heh, if we wanted to be real smartasses, we could call it "Michael Bay Continuity Family." Honestly though, after looking at it, the most central thing to this new continuity is the movie, as much as I don't want to wind up with that one, I can't think of a better option. The others are probably right in that we should wait and see if a good tagline pops up. (Had Aaron Archer not come up with the Unicron Trilogy, I wonder if we'd stil be calling it A-E-C. :D) --UndeadScottsman 01:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well, this begs the question of what qualifies as "G1." From the sound of things, the movie has about as much in common with G1 as Armada did; in that it was definantly INSPIRED by G1 and definantly shapes a lot of things around what came in G1, but it also treads a lot of new ground and sort of does it's own thing. I mean, there's not a whole heaping lot fo different between Optimus in Armada and Optimus in G1. Likely there is going to be about the same ammount of difference for Optimus in the movie. I vote we give the movie it's own continuity family. Of course, that means we need to name it. Transformers (2007 Film) Continuity Family?--UndeadScottsman 17:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
So, should we replace Bonecrusher by Wreckage?--GUIGUI 18:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Why? --M Sipher
