Talk:Tailgate (G1)

Mexican Tailgate

[1]--Nevermore 19:24, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

Main image and opening paragraph

His main image should be his first body, of which that art is definitely not. And there's not really an excuse for not mentioning his only character trait for 25 years. --ItsWalky 21:34, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

Firstly, it wasn't his sole character trait - neither his Marvel UK nor Japanese comic appearances (the latter of which is set on Earth) show ANY sign of him obsessing over inanimate objects. Indeed, his Marvel UK appearance shows him as concerned about being thought a coward, and level-headed under pressure, which are character traits which DON'T fit with his TFU bio (I worked that in to the top section - it isn't pure IDW MtMtE).

And, yes, it is mentioned ("...sensitive to the point of irrationality" is basically how the DW bio puts it), but it shouldn't be given such prominence when it doesn't fit with *ANY* of his fictional appearances, and contradicts most of them. If there was a "Transformers Universe bio continuity" section (lots of them, not just Tailgate, are either ignored or outright contradicted by even their Marvel in-comic appearances), or you want to work it into the Dreamwave section, that would make sense rather than forcing it in when it doesn't apply to any of the sections it leads into.

As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired *and* is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has regularly done stuff and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - Mammalian Verisimilitude 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. To say nothing of how absurdly long his intro paragraph is in toto. -LV 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)