Talk:The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7
Bechdel Test
Is the trivia true? Didn't Verity talk with her female social worker about her behavior at one point? Magaroja (talk) 19:29, 22 January 2014 (EST)
- Yeah, Infiltration # 4, if I'm not mistaken. --Nu-Priest (talk) 19:41, 22 January 2014 (EST)
- Female Transformers != women --Emvee (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2014 (EST)
- Are we or are we not interpreting "men" and "women" as including all "male" and "female" characters, whether human or otherwise? --Khajidha (talk) 10:27, 23 January 2014 (EST)
- I've no problem with the Bechdel Test note going on Infiltration #4's page, but having to qualify that this is the first time that two female Transformers have talked to each other is stretching the point beyond noteworthiness. --Emvee (talk) 12:31, 23 January 2014 (EST)
- Indeed, it has been physically impossible for the test to be passed by Transformers before now. It's also the first time a female character has held a wrench. Or the first time a female character has slid down a hooked rope. I know we're on the internet and the internet just loooooves to make the test a thing lately, but the point of note - purely by virtue of the nature of females in IDW continuity - is that there are new female character AT ALL, not that their introduction suddenly allows the comic to pass the test, which is only one of many, MANY things their appearance singifies. - Chris McFeely (talk)
- I've no problem with the Bechdel Test note going on Infiltration #4's page, but having to qualify that this is the first time that two female Transformers have talked to each other is stretching the point beyond noteworthiness. --Emvee (talk) 12:31, 23 January 2014 (EST)
- Are we or are we not interpreting "men" and "women" as including all "male" and "female" characters, whether human or otherwise? --Khajidha (talk) 10:27, 23 January 2014 (EST)
- Female Transformers != women --Emvee (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2014 (EST)
Ammonites or Terradores?
The 'heroic' Terradores are the good guys who had their leader killed by Whirl, which led to a new leader who is determined to win at any cost. Paddox was an evil ammonite but he says it is the Terradores who have reached out to the 'Dark Cyclops'. Presumably the evil Ammonites recall Paddox et al to fend of the more aggressive strategy of the heroic terradores. So who is attacking the Lost Light crew? Are they really evil Ammonites or heroic Terradores? Paddox's line would suggest it is the heroic Terradores who are in bed with Shockwave and are attacking, unless old one eye has double crossed them somehow? Have the LL crew confused the factions? If there is any ambiguity shouldn't we call them Stentarians? Mister Jazz (talk) 15:35, 23 January 2014 (EST)
