Talk:Vanquish

IDW discontinuity

Does it make sense to split Vanquish's IDW appearances between this page and Vanquish (ROC)? This page for all the Decepticon stuff with Gigatron and the Autobot page for the Windblade vision? --Emvee (talk) 05:13, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

Yes. - SanityOrMadness (talk) 06:49, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

I don't like when we make up stuff like this. The colonist version from Windblade wouldn't actually BE an Autobot - no factions on the colony worlds. - Chris McFeely (talk) 07:04, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but the Camiens did all rock up sporting Autobot badges... --Emvee (talk) 07:08, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

And it's the same thing as the Tailwind/Windrim thing, surely, since the two can't be the same character. The Gorlamites didn't have factions either (frankly, I still think we should treat the Gorlamites as nameless, with perhaps "A Gorlam Prime inhabitant resembled..."-type note as a note at the absolute most). And, hell, what about all the {{factions}} bits that apply only to one micro-continiuity, like Nova Prime having Autobot and Decepticon sigils because of TF Legends?

Unless you're arguing for [[Vanquish (Titan Colony)]], of course... - SanityOrMadness (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

I didn't like Tailwind/Windrim, either. Call a cock-up a cock-up, don't make up reasons it's not a cock-up. I still hate that "Bluster" has an article. It's a cock-up. We don't have "Decepticon Sideswipe" or "Autobot Swindle" articles to cover animation errors from G1. We don't have a separate article for the Straxus from "Megatron Origin". They're just cock-ups. - Chris McFeely (talk) 07:16, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

So are you going to go round removing "Firster Aid" and so forth too? (Not to mention a few hundred pages from the Kre-O webmanga...)

And aren't you just talking about situations were someone momentarily (or for the duration of a scene, at most) had the wrong sigil, rather than something more seriously continuity-breaking? It isn't as if IDW haven't had character model troubles of their own...

[Moreover, the Wiki's position on cameos is wildly inconsistent - compare how the continuity-breaking cameos in Megatron Origin were treated - even now, Elita One is still listed for #3, as is Straxus in #4 - with everyone who's ignored on The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue "because c'mon, they are just easter egg cameos"] - SanityOrMadness (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

ADDITIONAL (since you edited while I was typing) - if it wasn't obvious from what I said, I think Straxus should be removed from the cast list in MO #4. And if Colony-Vanquish isn't going to be separated from this page in some form, he should be treated as a nameless guy bar a "character who resembles but can't be because..." bit in the notes. - SanityOrMadness (talk) 07:24, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

I think this kind of thing is already implicit with the inclusion of characters like Wilder, Blood and Morsa in official fiction, isn't it? --Emvee (talk) 07:39, 3 May 2015 (EDT)