Talk:Bumblebee (Movie)/toys

Split AGAIN?

Apparently this page is 52 KB, which is fuckoff huge by Wiki standards. I propose splitting it into Bumblebee/toys and Bumblebee/merchandise. Any opposition? -hx 09:31, 15 November 2009 (EST)

52 kB isn't that large—only old browsers have trouble editing. 100 kB is a better point to split it. —Interrobang 20:27, 15 November 2009 (EST)

Leader Bumblebee

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/285964-5th-rotf-leader-class-mold.html

Is it time to add a new sub section? Dinoman96 13:13, 4 January 2010 (EST)

Not until we get official confirmation, and not something stolen or leaked. --ItsWalky 14:01, 4 January 2010 (EST)

Battle Blade Bumblebee losing his head?

I got Battle Blade Bumblebee today (the first of any of the Movieverse Bumblebees I've ever gotten) and the head seems to come off fairly easy when I convert him. For article noting purposes, I would like to know if anybody else has had this problem with this particular toy. - Zadok Rox 22:42, 2 August 2010 (EDT)

Nope, and sorry, but you're better off asking a message board, because this question is not a discussion about the content of the article. --FFN 23:06, 2 August 2010 (EDT)

I only ask because if this problem is widespread, it should be noted like other flaws with toys (ROTF's Sideswipe's torso problem, for example). However, I'll yield and drop the subject (no more message boards for me). - Zadok Rox 10:08, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

I've seen some with the heads somewhere rattling around in the box.--TOM 14:49, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Never had a problem with mine and I've owned it since August. I'm not aware of the Sideswipe problem either as never had an issue with any of the three different Sideswipes I have had (I only own Sidearms now having sold off the others) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.57.94 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

DOTM

I think someoneshould add a DOTM secton. But not me. Who knows what I could mess up!--TOM 14:52, 19 February 2011 (EST)

DOTM Deluxe Bee

Before we get into ANOTHER edit-war, could SOMEONE ELSE kindly clarify whether Deluxe Bee is a retool or a remold? --Lonegamer78 14:12, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

I really have no idea. I don't own Battle Blades Bumblebee, and I didn't pay much attention to deluxe Bee at Toy Fair, either. I do wonder how TOM can claim to know DOTM Bee is "smaller," though. Officially, that is. --ItsWalky 14:18, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

In this video from Optibotimus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE Quote: because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit. -Optibotimus --TOM 14:48, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

So like I said. You got this information from illegal sources. How many times have I asked you to not do that? Would you say one million times? What will it take to make you learn, or do I just have to get rid of you? --ItsWalky 14:50, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Illegal? How?--TOM 14:56, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

The toy has not been released for sale. Therefore, anyone who has one has acquired it through illegal means. THEY ARE STOLEN!!!!!!! --Khajidha 14:58, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Peaugh hs one LEAGALY; he bought it from KAPOW! Toys. I even asked a guy who reviews the toys for the company, and he said KAPOW! is 100% legit, and they DO NOT sell stolen items!--TOM 15:02, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Because people who sell stolen items always say that. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RELEASED FOR SALE. --Khajidha 15:08, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

He doesn't sell them, he just reviews them for the company.--TOM 15:11, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Kapow Toys's own site says that: "PRE-ORDER Transformers Dark of the Moon Deluxe Bumblebee US Card PRE-ORDER DUE MAY - JUNE 2011". How can he have it from them if they won't have it for another month? And what company does he do the reviews for? And how do you know? --Khajidha 15:13, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

He is still reviewing stolen property. The release date for these toys is not for several months. Because you can't seem to learn, and me telling you to stop adding stolen information to our wiki is at least a once-a-week occurrence that has gone on for as long as you've been editing this wiki, you are going on an extended vacation. --ItsWalky 15:14, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

What's the Deluxe Bee that has a weapon hole on his hood rather than the roof? I saw a pic of it somewhere but can't seem to find it again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.57.94 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

The cries of "ILLEGAL" sound awfully corporate to me. What moral obligation are you pulling here to disregard sources of information that aren't press releases? "Stolen information" is one of the most pompous things I've seen on this site, and that's saying a lot seeing as how more than half it is dedicated to proxy rage against raging fans. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.63.112.139 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Familiarize yourself with this. --Detour 04:16, 12 July 2011 (EDT)

Lunchables

What with the lockdown, I can't correct the following errors in the Lunchables section: plateform ---> platform, creatre ---> create, itiration ---> iteration. --Khajidha 16:59, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Redeco Jokes

Yes, there's a billion Bumblebee redecos. We all know that. Can we stop making caption jokes about it? TheMZone 19:40, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

Nitro 'bee

Is Nitro 'bee's molded license plate a new thing for Transformers? Usually it's either a sticker, or just a flat space, but Nitro 'bee has the whole thing molded on his back-end.--Carrion 15:37, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Leader writeup

The previous edit's writeup wasn't great, but it wasn't worthless, either. I was going to rewrite it myself based on what our anonymous editor contributed, but I don't have the toy so I can't figure out quite what he means about some of it. Still, I think someone should try to overhaul it rather than just revert it outright to a version of the entry with no information at all. -LV 14:11, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

This was the previous entry:

"Leader class Bumblebee is a new mold made to be more movie accurate like all other figures under the leader class title. Bumblebee has no electronics or voice capabilities in the figure itself. Instead all the electronics are found in a jet pack/ weapon pack that can be clipped to either his back or the rear end of the car. The pack includes three weapons, a non firing shoulder cannon and two non firing missile packs that can be angled around his shoulders however you want it. The shoulder cannon plays a firing noise when pressed as well as deploys a scope that is entirely useless to the character for it comes nowhere near his face. the rocket launchers play a different noise of rockets being fired when pressed. The only other sound is the pack has a switch that, when pushed forward or pulled back, deploys/retracts the weapons and plays to notably different sounding transformation sounds between retracting and deploying (it also flashes blue or yellwolights when the above mentioned sounds play). Besides the pack, Bumblebee's only packaged weapon is the pulse cannon on his right arm. this cannon can't be replaced with a normal hand but it does telepathically pop out and the yellow piece on the lower arm can come forward (this doesn't happen on the other arm)to create what looks like a blade weapon.on his The Cameron mode can be put the weapon pack on and give him a sort of attack mode, likely based off the scene when Bumblebee briefly used weapons while in vehicle form. The form changes basically nothing, just opens the hood parts and reveals the arms where the door used to be (the door hangs over them now). Bumblebee has four five millimeter holes for the mech tech feature, one on the top of his shoulder (though the one on the side of his shoulder is to small for mech tech weapons) and one on his lower arms. The weapon system/ jet pack has five, two on the body of the pack, the third on the middle cannon, and one on each of the rocket launchers. The two launchers packs can be equiped with a c joint rung each. The alt mode has none but the attack form has the same four located on his arms as well as it includes the wepaon pack's seven mech tech points. In total, Bumblebee can store up to nine mech weapons. The pack can't really be placed on any other mech tech characters due to it's massive size and the connector peg, though the Deluxe calss Laserbeak can be plugged onto it and his arms if you want." --Primo 16:31, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

Citation needed

As the person who added the bit that was given the "citation needed" treatment, I can confirm that there was a weird version of the checklist on Hasbro's website a few years ago that listed all sorts of unreleased toys (that list is where we got the name "Halloween Horrorcons" from) which also listed all the Screen Battles sets with four instead of three human figures. That list should be long gone by now.--Nevermore 20:01, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

"Impossible!"

As I was editing the page myself (not sure if it will still be kept on or not), I found it daunting trying to edit the page because it was so long it is nearly impossible to go where you need to be, or your mind is just screwed.

So my Idea to rectify the problem (and perhaps to make the "Bumblebee toys" a little less overwhelming for those who read or edit it), is perhaps to split the page apart to equal sections (as in parts to continue) or towards which movie (e.g. Bumblee toys ROTF) with a hint of what came afterwards (e.g. the 2010 line) before moving to the next page (Bumblebee toys DOTM) and so forth.

Not sure if anyone could agree on this, but It is I hope a good point on a result of why we hate Bumblebee so much.Go(toby070)Bots (talk) 10:53, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

That's what the headers and table of contents are for. Ctrl+F is your best friend. Besides, this isn't even the longest page.

And who's this "we" you're talking about? --Inkblot (talk) 22:40, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Studio Series toy

Any consensus from owners on whether Studio Series Bumblebee best qualifies as a heavy retool or a partial-tool? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 23:56, 6 March 2018 (EST)

mpm07

mpm07 beatle bumblebee needs to be added —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Optimusprimerotfrocks (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

The listng has no pictures and comes from an unofficial affiliate of Hasbro, therefore, it constitutes as leak, and has no place on the wiki. --notirishman (talk) 20:32, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

mpm07 has been listed on tfsource for preorder and has been revealed on tfw2005 by hasbro http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/09/21/tranformers-masterpiece-movie-mpm-07-bumblebee-vw-beetle-official-images-and-announcement-372059 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Optimusprimerotfrocks (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

We already have the toy up. --notirishman (talk) 20:49, 22 September 2018 (EDT)

This page is desperately in need of splitting.

Right now this page ranks as eighth longest page on the wiki, and it is surprising that loading all the images does not crash my browser. Something has to give. Where would be an adequate point to partition Bumblebee toys? Unfortunately, it is possible the 2018 Bumblebee movie is an insufficient benchmark to trim down the first page of toys to a manageable user experience. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 07:25, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

Why not split the six movie franchise evenly in half? Same for Movie OP. --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

Probably the best place to split right now would be from the Age of Extinction toyline onward, as both pages would have approximately the same lenght. But considering that this Bumblebee is inevitably going to keep getting a lot of toys in the foreseeable future, I'd suggest we split the first decade (2007-2016) from everything past 2017. Basically the split would happen between Q-Transformers and Movie the Best, allowing for the second page to keep growing to the lenght of the first one until we reach 2026 and decide if yet another split becomes a necessity. --Fritz (talk) 17:39, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

I think give the sheer length another split may be needed down the road, but I do agree that the original trilogy is a workable boundary line for now! S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2022 (EDT)

Reviving this topic because we all know this page is only going to grow bigger next year and we'll have to split it sooner or later. MrRald has suggested on the Discord that we start by splitting the Studio Series toys (along with Buzzworthy SS and Premium Finish) to their own page separate from all the other toys. While I personally agree that it's a good starting point, I also think that we could just go straight to the "second phase of the split"—so to speak—where we keep the first page with everything from 2007 to 2017 and the second page with everything else starting with 2018, conveniently splitting the original 10 years of the Bayverse from this new era of softly-rebooted movies and toylines that started with Bumblebee and Studio Series. It's only a matter of time until we get loads of Rise of the Beasts toys anyway so it wouldn't hurt to be prepared for their eventual arrival. Does anyone else agree with this proposal? --Fritz (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2022 (EST)

While I have no strong feelings on which way we split the page, I second the need to split this page as soon as possible for the sake of making it stable and navigable. The reason I chose the studio series toyline for the split is because it's been going for 5 years, it shows no sign of stopping and Bumblebee gets the most toys in it. Therefore, it's gonna be our main source of bloating from here on. The upcoming Rise of The Beasts Tie-in toyline will probably also feature a lot of Bumblebee merchandise, so I find sensitive to move it alongside the Studio Series toys as it will be another source of bloating. MrRald (talk) 22:20, 7 December 2022 (EST)

I think keeping the five Bay films' toylines and the attached lines (TF2010, Kre-O, etc) on one page, then starting a second page for Bumblebee, Studio, Beasts and forward would probably be as clean and intuitive a breakpoint as possible. Start the soft page reboot at the soft franchise reboot. --M Sipher (talk) 02:23, 8 December 2022 (EST)

My thought process is: he got a new body in AOE, so that might be a good place to split off. Leave Movie, ROTF and DOTM on this page, along with any depictions of him in that body. Have AOE, TLK, Bumblebee, and ROTB on another. Don't know how useful that would be, but that's my two cents. ThatGuy79 (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2023 (EST)

So what you're saying is we should split the Studio Series section in two separate pages on an arbitrary basis. That doesn't sound helpful at all. -- Fritz (talk) 12:08, 8 March 2023 (EST)

I support Sipher's plan. Saix (talk) 12:57, 8 March 2023 (EST)

Looking at my argument, I have come to the conclusion that it was dumb. I'm with Fritz and Sipher on this one. ThatGuy79 (talk) 13:45, 8 March 2023 (EST)

I think enough people have agreed on the split and so I propose we move the discussion to the next topic that needs a consensus: how do we name the pages? I personally can't think of anything other than "/toys (2007-2017)" and "/toys (2018 onwards)", but I'm not saying it's the best option. Any better ideas? -- Fritz (talk) 14:23, 8 March 2023 (EST)

I'm gonna cast my vote for "/toys (pre-Bumblebee)" and "/toys (post-Bumblebee). ThatGuy79 (talk) 18:22, 8 March 2023 (EST)

...oops. Yes. Yes, I did. Thank you. ThatGuy79 (talk) 19:15, 8 March 2023 (EST)

For lack of a better idea, (2007-2017) and (2018 onwards) seem about as concise a parenthetical as any. --M Sipher (talk) 01:21, 9 March 2023 (EST)

(2007-2017) and (2018-) makes sense to me. Clean, simple and descriptive. No nice words that are more representative of the split that I can think of. Bumblebee2000 (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2023 (EST)

My take is put SS in its own separate category since G1 Prime and Megatron do that, and then sort those SS toys by movie.Poliwag06 (talk) 01:48, 9 March 2023 (EST)

Problem with that: I don't think there are really enough Studio Series toys to have much of an impact on the page's length. It'd still be HUGE, and it'll get bigger right away once ROTB comes out. I think "2007-2017" and "2018 onward" are the optimal way to split. ThatGuy79 (talk) 12:32, 9 March 2023 (EST)

No need to discuss where to split anymore, it's clear now that 2017/2018 is the better option. Though it has been brought up in the Discord that the Masterpiece line (and possibly others) span from before 2017 to after 2018, but I think it would be unwise to split toylines between pages, so I suggest we make an exception for these cases and leave their entirety on the first page alone. If necessary, we can note at the top of the pages that the split refers to the year each line started and not the specific release of each individual toy. After all, it's better to have one exception that helps to keep everything else as simple as possible than to keep coming up with any more convoluted ways to make the split. Also thanks for the support on my name suggestions! -- Fritz (talk) 13:10, 9 March 2023 (EST)

I have created three sandboxes of Bayverse Bumblebee's toys in increments of 2007-2013, 2014-2017, and 2018-2023. From the sheer vertical length and according number of images, I would argue that three partitions of Bayverse Bumblebee's toys are necessary, and the same applying to Bayverse Optimus Prime. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 14:52, 9 March 2023 (EST)

Good work, it's crazy to see that we can actually split them in three pages already. I'm okay with this. -- Fritz (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2023 (EST)

As am I. Unless further agreement is needed, I suggest we get on with the docking sequence- er, page splitting. ThatGuy79 (talk) 15:36, 9 March 2023 (EST)

...so, what happened with this? ThatGuy79 (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2023 (EDT)

Well, has anyone else looked at the sandbox partitions I have tested just above? I want 3 partitions, but I can accept 2. And I really don't want to hear complaints after the fact from anyone who did not try to pare down the page's sheer loading time. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 14:59, 7 April 2023 (EDT)

Seems sound enough. Two pages feels better but if '07-TLK produces a compy-choking page still, the split as-is works. --M Sipher (talk) 18:46, 7 April 2023 (EDT)

Construct-Bots

Does anyone have the Construct-Bots Dinobot Warrior Bumblebee? If so, are you willing to take a picture of him combined with Nosecone? ThatGuy79 (talk) 11:57, 8 March 2023 (EST)

Give Universal Studios Bee His Own Section?

I recently just got a Universal Studios Deluxe Class Bumblebee and I noticed that he is slightly different from the 2011 DOTM MechTech one. The clear blue plastic pieces are a lighter shade and the yellow is a little more orangey. He also has paint on his knees. I edited the DOTM Deluxe Bumblebee wiki page with this information but I think it would make more sense to give Universal Bee his own section. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TurtleLover (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

I think it's a valid addition to make, though it would be better to try and pinpoint when exactly did the Universal version started to differ from the original DOTM release, since the Universal one has been rereleased multiple times in at least two different packagings. Was it since the early days, the most recent repackaging, or somewhere in between? -- Fritz (talk) 06:48, 1 August 2023 (EDT)

The one I got with the painted knees is the packaging from 2015, so at least since then. —TurtleLover (talk) 18:59, 1 August 2023 (EDT)

Two things

1, can we please split the page already (maybe like SS and Post Bayverse on a new page)? It's getting annoying to have to scroll for a good few minutes then wait for it to load. 2, am I going crazy or does the text towards the bottom of the page (around where the Rise of the beasts section starts) seem bigger than normal? Metalstar (talk) 13:34, 9 April 2024 (EDT)

Don't know about the text but I do agree it's past the time we did the split already. -- Fritz (talk) 14:04, 9 April 2024 (EDT)