Talk:Cindersaur (G1)

I don't know who put the "CINDERSAUR THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE" caption on that picture, but damn if I didn't laugh for a solid minute. --63.246.176.138 01:23, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

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--flicky1991 03:52, 19 February 2013 (EST)

Gender.

So Alpha Trion Cindersaur uses "her". Micronus uses "his". Also of note is that the Spanish-language description on the back of the packaging refers to Cindersaur as a "guerrero"--- a male warrior. Ditto for Portuguese--- "guerreiro". French is "guerrier", I don't know if that implies gender or not. But either way... there's a discrepancy somewhere. What do? DuplexBeGreat (talk) 18:49, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

"They"/"Them" until something confirming one way or the other? - TBR (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

Wait and see until all the cards are released, I think. See which pronoun is used over the other more often. Escargon (talk) 20:05, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

Given the mix of pronouns within something probably meant to describe the same character, I'm a fan of they/them, with a note (like the one we have now, really) specifying where the conflict comes from. Unless we really want to do he/her//his/hersAkibaSilver (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

The French "guerrier" is masculine as well. So far, the Micronus card and the three foreign languages make four male sources compared to the lone female source in the Alpha Trion card. I agree that we should wait and see what the remaining cards say on the matter, but also note that the description for Cindersaur given in Issue #245 of Figure King also strongly suggests the POTP toy to be the same character as the G1 Firecon who, as this very Wiki article will attest, has historically been male. --Sabrblade (talk) 22:51, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

While I think it's likely that the toy is meant to be male, I wouldn't consider the three foreign languages three sources. It's the same text repeated three times. DuplexBeGreat (talk) 23:24, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

There was some confusion about this earlier (including the deletion of some text from this discussion page), so to clear it up: the Alpha Trion card refers to Cindersaur as female only in English. The Micronus card refers to Cindersaur as male only in English. No other language on these cards assigns a gender to Cindersaur, and neither does any language on any other card. In contrast, all languages except English refer to Cindersaur as male on the packaging. DuplexBeGreat (talk) 05:05, 24 June 2018 (EDT)

Cindersaur's face, at the very least, is designed to be female. Escargon (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2018 (EDT)

Yes. And friggin' WHAT at the multilingual card being counted as three distinct sources. --ItsWalky (talk) 02:17, 24 June 2018 (EDT)

Well, here's the "official word" on it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/210868656870129666/463780369297178667/unknown.png So... leaving the article as it currently is, I guess? DuplexBeGreat (talk) 15:03, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

Do you actually think some generic customer service answer is an authoritative statement on anything? Saix (talk) 15:05, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

No, that was my point. I essentially got a nonanswer. So in lieu of any official statement... DuplexBeGreat (talk) 15:46, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

Terrorcon

Hasbro Toy Shop calls Cindersaur a Terrorcon twice. [1] So unless Cindersaur has a bunch of Prime cards that says Cindersaur's not a Terrorcon annoyingly, I'm gonna add the category. --ItsWalky (talk) 23:10, 27 June 2018 (EDT)

Bot Shots

...this page claims Cindersaur is a Prime Predacon because his Bot Shots toy was arbitrarily put here when all the unimportant continuities were disbanded, even though there's already an actual Prime Predacon Cindersaur who has just as much claim to the Bot Shots toy as this one does? Is that right? -LV (talk) 11:13, 30 June 2018 (EDT)

I'm not seeing where this claim is made.--Khajidha (talk) 16:47, 30 June 2018 (EDT)

Which claim? That he's a Predacon? It's in his insignia list. Which it should be, because the Bot Shots toy is on this page. That's the part that's stupid. Why would a Bot Shots toy of a Predacon Cindersaur not be on the Predacon Cindersaur's page? -LV (talk) 11:57, 1 July 2018 (EDT)

Oh, didn't think about the insignia.--Khajidha (talk) 12:37, 1 July 2018 (EDT)

It was probably put here because it looks more like the G1 version. --Khajidha (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2018 (EDT)