Talk:Crankstart

Just a random question. I know Hasbro's being intentionally vague about the continuity of the gold box line (and in general), and we're placing Sea Spray in the movie-verse (despite Hasbro calling him the G1 guy) mainly because of his connection to Breacher and Crankstart. Yes? My question is... is there something beyond their movie-style designs that connect Breacher and Crankstart to the movie-verse? Just the Decepticons in hiding motif? Just wondering. --ZacWilliam 07:56, 27 July 2010 (EDT)

Speaking of continuity, ROTF?

How is he a ROTF character? He was released under the yellow packaged line. Is this due to Titan's bollocks? --Karhukjnsi 06:27, 22 February 2011 (EST)

No. It's due to Titan's officially-licensed fiction. -hx 09:26, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I'm scratching my head to figger out why being in the yellow packaged line means you can't mean "Revenge of the Fallen." I mean, dude, it gave us Leader Starscream and Leader "Give Me Your Face" Prime, redecoes of Movie Ratchet, the new deluxe Movie Ironhide... In fact, the vast majority of yellow packaged product is undoubtedly live-action movie-based. There was a slow shift in aesthetic from movie to Classics-style, and Crankstart was at the beginning of it. How is his ROTFness a surprise? --ItsWalky 09:36, 22 February 2011 (EST)

And even then, aside from two Legends-class toys, all the "Classics-style" toys were made under the Reveal The Shield banner (Jazz, Tracks, Windcharger, Lugnut, Grappel, etc) and Crankstart is from the HFTD banner! Seriously, guy, why exactly are you so hung up about this? --Detour 09:45, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I don't know, but I'm betting it ends with "Walky's a fascist." -hx 12:20, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I'm not saying that if it's in the Yellow packaging then it's not movieverse/ROTF, what I'm saying is if it STARTED in that packaging, then it's ambiguous from the start. Lockdown, Brawn and the lot were directly under the ROTF toyline banner, everything that was previously established already has a position (Movie Ratchets, G2 Optimus, so on), but others (like Crankstart, or Hailstorm) don't have previously established continuities for characters with these models (I know some are used by Titan, but surely you can see how Titan should be considered a flimsy argument). That makes me wonder, I can see how Crankstart could be a "movie" character, but how for "Revenge of the Fallen"? --Karhukjnsi 16:57, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Because, as stated already, he appears in a Revenge of the Fallen story. --ItsWalky 17:15, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Titan magazine lost the "Revenge of the Fallen" subtitle after issue 7. - Starfield 17:49, 22 February 2011 (EST)

It's still a ROTF story, featuring ROTF characters. It didn't suddenly become Animated or something. If it had, we would have noticed! --ItsWalky 17:52, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I just meant that maybe it is generic movieverse and not necessarily "ROTF." - Starfield 18:01, 22 February 2011 (EST)

These stories appear in "Transformers Universe," which is apparently the real title of the comic, judging by the cover. Even with "Transformers Universe" on the cover, with the movie logo and everything, the magazine can still have (and has had) Animated stories and such within it, but those weren't considered movieverse because of the logo on the front. The title of the magazine is extremely unimportant. It's a Transformers grab-bag. So it doesn't say "REVENGE OF THE FALLEN" on the front of the magazine? Who cares! Most of the stories within are a part of the chunk of fiction that we consider attached to the second movie. --ItsWalky 18:15, 22 February 2011 (EST)

This is an extremely joyless argument about the stupidest of details. --ItsWalky 18:15, 22 February 2011 (EST)

What did you expect, Walky? Honestly? It's a wiki. This is what we do. -hx 07:47, 23 February 2011 (EST)

Welcome to the internet.--76.28.76.206 07:49, 23 February 2011 (EST)

A wiki mod, complaining about "arguing about the stupidest of details"? Now I've seen EVERYTHING (figuratively)! --Karhukjnsi 07:54, 23 February 2011 (EST)

Moved discussion from "Talk:Crankstart (Kre-O)"

So... is the listing of shared Kreon parts a bit much? I'm kinda thinking "no". --M Sipher 06:05, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

I don't care for it. But I'm not going to fight it. -LV 09:53, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

I think it is putting too much text for too little return and leads to too much necessary upkeep as the parts inevitably get reused. Perhaps it could be changed to only mention the original use of each part. --Khajidha 10:29, 13 August 2012 (EDT)