Talk:Glyph (Universe)

Glyph and Strika in the past

Actually... granted, Wittenrich's note on the TFCC forums (which I'm assuming Walky was going from...) was worded confusingly as heck, but the impression I got from it was that Glyph and Strika weren't actually in the past at the rebellion, since he said what embedded them in the dream was that they explored the factories in "Flames of Yesterday", i.e. in the "now" of the story.
I meant to ask Wittenrich earlier to clarify what he actually meant, and then managed to forget to... of course, now it'll probably take a bit to get a response due to BotCon. --Jeysie 02:27, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Yep, turns out I was right, which means we have to adjust that note somehow. --Jeysie 08:50, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

I wasn't aware of any note. I was just going off of the models used for Glyph and Strika being in that episode. Is that what happened in the story? Then we have the problem of the Cartoon and FoY being in two separate (but very similar) continuities. We can't use one to explain the other. In the context of the original cartoon, minus the Club story-which-is-a-different-timeline, that's just Glyph and Strika there for no reason. --ItsWalky 09:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Aah. You have a better memory than I do... I didn't even make the connection until Wittenrich mentioned it. :P

His full note: "Five Faces of Darkness Part 4 I believe. In the Matrix dream, watching the Quintessons abuse their factory workers.

"(As far as their "appearing" in the past goes, this was my intention. It's a dream. One that is already fairly mixed up chronologically if you follow the character models used. Strika and Glyph explored the factories in "Flames of Yesterday", embedding that relationship amongst the 'Wisdom of the Ages'. Information which revealed itself as a dream would; in a juxtaposition of images.)" --Jeysie 09:16, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

So this story makes it canon that we can't trust anything in the Matrix visions, after having used it to make like 30 billion pages. Yay, thanks, FoY! --ItsWalky 09:19, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

You can always engage in cathartic grumbling at him on the forums? :> --Jeysie 09:20, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Eh. Realistically, Glyph and Strika are totally there in the cartoon. It's only Wings continuity that says we can't trust the Matrix dream and those two were placed there. --ItsWalky 09:26, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Well... the confusing thing is that it's also only Wings continuity that says those two are Glyph and Strika in the first place. --Jeysie 09:32, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

They have a name there, which takes precedent over them not having a name anywhere else. What a tangled web this wiki weaves. --ItsWalky 09:38, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Hmm. I suppose a note of some kind explaining the... quirkiness, then? --Jeysie 09:49, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Couldn't hurt. --ItsWalky 09:59, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Name the characters as revealed in the story, then way down at the bottom add a trivia note about the author's intent and personal canon, wash, rinse, repeat. (If I felt like engaging, I'd suppose that the "cross-time dream allegory woowoo" is a function of unique geological / cosmological features in the FoY universe, sort of like SG's "reversed polarity," which allows it and it alone to create misleading Matrix visions. No sense turning an exception into a rule.) --Thylacine 2000 10:08, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

If we're gonna be pedantic about Cryotek...

Shouldn't this be Glyph (Universe)? Saix (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2015 (EST)

Sure, why not? -Foffy the Sheep (talk) 19:13, 27 December 2015 (EST)

Yes it should. --Sabrblade (talk) 20:04, 27 December 2015 (EST)

Blue Classics Bumblebee protoype

Why is this here? It was never identified as Glyph and doesn't even have the same color scheme. That it's a Takara concept would strongly indicate it's supposed to be blue Micro Change Bumblebee (who actually has a similar color scheme to the prototype). Saix (talk) 10:18, 22 November 2019 (EST)