Talk:God Neptune (BWSG)

Given developments in recent years, I'd honestly advocate for putting this guy on the BWII page. Escargon (talk) 21:53, 18 November 2018 (EST)

All but one of his components is different to BWII God Neptune's. If anything, I'd consider him more of a Leobreaker and merge him into Piranacon, but I don't see any problem with leaving him on his own page. Omegatron (talk) 06:44, 27 May 2019 (EDT)

Merger Discussion and Vote

So User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 recently posited in the wiki discord that we should merge this article with Piranacon specifically over the BWII version, and definitely not leave it as its own page. In light of a bit of discussion over this we've decided to ask for a vote on the matter, and would invite further discussion here too. Here are the For and Against arguments for merging the page with Piranacon.

• For: In terms of makeup, God Neptune is the classics incarnation of Piranacon with a new colour scheme and two members rotated out. He's called out as behaving differently, but is called out as having the same personality. We don't split out similar variations on existing combiners, such as giving IDW's Prowlastator (we have split out the two Defensor variants God Guardian and Gaia Guardian, but that's another discussion).

• Against: God Neptune's bio text specifically says that the entity Piranacon was destroyed, and God Neptune is a new being entirely. This reads as authorial intent that separates God Neptune from the aforementioned variants. Furthermore, our current separation of the Defensor variants provides a basis for God Neptune to stay separated.

There's also a separate argument that this article should be merged with the BWII character's page, on the basis that he should be taken as a totally new take on the older character. The against argument is that the BWII Seacons are very clearly defined as not being the Decepticon Seacons and the pair should be kept separate to avoid muddling things further.

Please respond below with your votes and opinions on the matter. Star Spangled Sam (talk) 12:13, 23 September 2020 (EDT)

• Merge with Piranacon. The only evidence we have for him being meaningfully different to Piranacon is one line in a bio that doesn't even specify HOW he's different. Failing that, Merge with God Neptune. --Riptide (talk) 12:20, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
• I'd just toss this onto Piranacon. Saix (talk) 18:22, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
• I'd vote to Keep it seperate but possibly merge it with BW2 Neptune (though that's another debate). Looking at things like Ultra Prime versus Optimus Maximus, and Scramble 7, the general rule has always been "new name plus any amount of different components equals new combiner," even when it contains some or most components from other combiners.--FearorCourage (talk) 12:40, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
• Merge with BWII God Neptune I think the authorial intent to make BWSG God Neptune a separate character should be respected. However, since BWSG falls into the G1 continuity family there is no reason to keep it in a separate Page from BWII God Neptune. MrRald (talk) 18:13, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
• If anything, I'd say Merge with God Neptune as despite the amount of their components belonging to a different combiner, the fact that other BWII characters besides Scylla are introduced leads me to think that this is supposed to be a new incarnation of God Neptune as opposed to, say, "the G1 Seacons are completely repainted in reference to God Neptune but that's the only connection and is still Piranacon." SoundJack426 (talk) 18:54, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
• Keep Separate: Didn't realise this was being discussed again. I see no harm in keeping this page separate, seeing as he's called out as being a different entity and we have other combiners separated for similar reasons. Definitely do not merge with BWII God Neptune, the combined form may have the same name but all but one of the components is different, it would be needlessly confusing. If it has to be merged, I'd rather it be merged with Piranacon. Omegatron (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
• Merge with Piranacon, but I would also be satisfied if merged into BWII God Neptune. This page is pointless. Piranacon's page can accommodate a new stage of his life just as Menasor and Defensor have swapped limbs and changed colors. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 12:30, 26 October 2020 (EDT)
• Merge with Piranacon. (Side note: can we reexamine the Defensor/Gaia Guardian/God Guardian situation?) --Khajidha (talk)
• I have no strong feelings either way about merging with Piranacon or keeping separate, but I am 100% NO to merging with BWII God Neptune when there is a grand total of one shared component character between them, and it's not even the one nominally in control of the BWII God Neptune mode. --M Sipher (talk) 20:42, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

Alright, I'll give this another day or two, and if opinion doesn't shift I'll merge with Piranacon. **Anyone who has opinions, get them in now if you want.** --Riptide (talk) 12:36, 27 October 2020 (EDT)