Talk:More Than Meets the Eye (RBA)
Where can I watch this episode, since it already supposedly aired in the UK?Transfan 1992 (talk) 04:25, 11 June 2020 (EDT)
The Decepticon
[edit]I don't agree with the note about Laserbeak. The reasons given don't seem particularly strong. He was very G1 in look in the War for/Fall of Cybertron games, for instance. --abates (talk) 02:37, 25 June 2020 (EDT)
- If it was just the look, I'd agree it was an Evergreen decision, but the look combined with the "no criminal record" backstory made it a lot harder to believe. I posed the question on the Discord, and the consensus was that we separate the two. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:36, 25 June 2020 (EDT)
- What if he has no criminal record because he technically was under Soundwave's control or whatever?Transfan 1992 (talk) 01:42, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- Perceptor says he "currently has no criminal record" which does not rule out him having a criminal record in the past that has been closed or wiped clean due to an amnesty or whatever. Besides which, Aligned is not all one continuity. The shows borrow a lot from each other and even cross over, but only things that happen onscreen in Rescue Bots Academy can be considered canon for Rescue Bots Academy. --abates (talk) 03:38, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- Yeah, the fact that Perceptor used the word "currently" in reference to Laserbeak's criminal record (or lack therof) and status as "a free bot" leads me to believe that he once did have a criminal record but has somehow since been absolved of his crimes. --Sabrblade (talk) 10:40, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- I mean the continuity thing doesn't really work when this show makes references to events from Robots in Disguise. Escargon (talk) 10:42, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- Perceptor's exact words: "Research has determined that this bot is indeed a Decepticon that goes by the name Laserbeak. But more importantly, he currently has no criminal record, and is a free bot." Perceptor had to look him up to identify him, so his name and record are on file. And it would be odd to identify someone who never had a criminal record as "a free bot", rather than someone who served their time and was freed after paying their debt to society. Perceptor doesn't say "he has no criminal record,", he say "he currently has no criminal record," which combined with his "free" status sounds more like Laserbeak is a former convict who was somehow given a clean slate to start his life over after being declared a free bot. We don't know what the circumstances of his past were that led to this current status of his, and will probably never know since RBA doesn't dabble in war history. But the point still stands. --Sabrblade (talk) 10:57, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- I mean the continuity thing doesn't really work when this show makes references to events from Robots in Disguise. Escargon (talk) 10:42, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- Yeah, the fact that Perceptor used the word "currently" in reference to Laserbeak's criminal record (or lack therof) and status as "a free bot" leads me to believe that he once did have a criminal record but has somehow since been absolved of his crimes. --Sabrblade (talk) 10:40, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- I was also saying the same thing about continuity being wonky, and we shouldn't even bother splitting characters like Snarl and Sludge or even Hoist because at this point it seems like the aligned continuity is about to die off anyway with the end of this show, so I think we should just leave em on the same page. It'll be one of those squit and it may work, and if it's really that much of a problem, why don't we just put a note saying it's possible it's a separate character or whatever, but just leave it on anyways?Transfan 1992 (talk) 20:55, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
- We can also just ask the producers or whatever if they're doing what Beecham did, somewhere?Transfan 1992 (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
- Perceptor says he "currently has no criminal record" which does not rule out him having a criminal record in the past that has been closed or wiped clean due to an amnesty or whatever. Besides which, Aligned is not all one continuity. The shows borrow a lot from each other and even cross over, but only things that happen onscreen in Rescue Bots Academy can be considered canon for Rescue Bots Academy. --abates (talk) 03:38, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
- What if he has no criminal record because he technically was under Soundwave's control or whatever?Transfan 1992 (talk) 01:42, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
Wedge
[edit]I think Wedge was born during the time of war was wrong because according to ask victor prime tumblr page, he was born during Cyclonus reign in Robots In Disguise. So that makes him still older then the rest of the recruits, but still a post war bot. Wedge never comes off as prewar or war born bot to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NYH (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.
- That Ask Vector Prime tumblr is fan-made. It's not official, so you can't use it as evidence. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
Oh. All this time I thought it was canon. Still Wedge could be born during the time of Cyclonus Reign which was during the time after the war has ended. Wedge still never came off of as this prewar bot. But thanks for letting me know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NYH (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.
Hey do you the ask victor prime from Facebook is official/canon?NYH (talk) 01:48, 19 March 2021 (EDT)NYH
- The Facebook page is canon because it was an official Hasbro page. The Tumblr is just a fan blog, so it's not. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
My bad. I meant to say that I don’t believe that Wedge was born before the war. I believe that he was born during the war, but didn’t fought or after the war. It isn’t impossible to think that he’s a post war bot. I mean maybe being born as a decepticon meant being built by one or raise by one. Cyclonus was trying to bring the decepticons back, so he maybe influences a bunch of new young bots. I do believe that Wedge could be a war born bot just as much he could be post war one. But I can’t believe him being a prewar one. He just never come off that old to me. We know that he is not an adult thanks to season 2 episode 18. And the director of RBA states that they are 14-15 in human years, so they aren’t adults. Then again they could have a long “childhood.” But I doubt it would last for several million years. So yeah it seem to me that Wedge is an early post war bot or late war born bot.NYH (talk) 10:21, 19 March 2021 (EDT)NYH
Okay according to the Chris Wyatt, Wedge is born after the war. So how can he be a decepticon? Well he said he was created created as one, so maybe he meant he was clone from one. Anyway I finally found the answer https://twitter.com/otherland71/status/1377300614514765827. I still believe that Wedge is older then the other recruits. However even people behind the show don’t know who is the oldest, but those I ask said that in their head it’s Wedge.NYH (talk) 15:22, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
- You do know that the entire RID 2015 cartoon was set after the war, right? The war was over in that show. The conflict in that show just involved Decepticon criminals, not soldiers of war. Just because the war ended doesn't mean the factions immediately disappeared. --Sabrblade (talk) 20:31, 31 March 2021 (EDT)