Talk:Optimus Clone

Does no one else realize that this is kinda ridiculous? This Optimus clone and the one from the cartoon share a similar origin, were created for similar circumstances, and is even described as being an exact clone of Optimus right down to the last transistor. There are a few differences, primarily that they're is many of him and that this is a different continuity, but still, does this fall under a similar deal to the G1 Dinobots or the Nightbird drones? Freakertron (talk) 15:08, 9 September 2015 (EDT)

We're more against the "abruptly" part of "abruptly merging character pages." For what it's worth, I don't see the harm in merging the two pages. --Ascendron (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

The game is set in cartoon continuity, so those two "characters" are different entities occupying the same universe. Saix (talk) 05:28, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Well, that's definitely a solid case for keeping them seperate. --Ascendron (talk) 09:12, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Even then, I mean there are several Optimus clones. Yeah I know they're separate, but even this page itself is about not one Optimus clone, but several. Freakertron (talk) 19:56, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

And they are still a different context than that other clone. Why are you so bothered by this? Saix (talk) 09:12, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

I vote merge, they're G1-cartoon universe evil clones of Optimus Prime. Freakertron has it right. --Emvee (talk) 09:18, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Is this that different from Clone number 3370318 and Skywarp (Animated)? They remain separate, despite being essentially "the same thing." If they are different iterations of a clone of Optimus in the same storyline, they should be treated as seperate characters. --Ascendron (talk) 09:29, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Clone #3370318 and Animated "Skywarp" both exist within the same timeline - as in, one was literally chronologically created after the other, so they have to be separate individuals. Here, we're dealing with two iterations of the G1 cartoonverse that don't necessarily overlap chronologically, but both contain evil clones of Optimus Prime created by Megatron. They're just slightly different implementations of the same idea IMHO, hence merge. --Emvee (talk) 09:43, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

But the events of this game take place in a universe where the Prime Problem clone exists. Your logic doesn't really follow. Saix (talk) 09:47, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

The difference is that Skywarp and Clone #3370318 are individuals with personalities and separate names and colour schemes. The G1 and game Optimus clones are, respectively, a directly-controlled robot and a group of mass-produced clones. I think we should treat them as expressions of the same concept, since none of them are individual beings. --Riptide (talk) 10:04, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Makes sense to me, though I can't say I feel very strongly one way or the other. I guess I'm a mild vote for connecting them. --Giggidy (talk) 10:19, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Riptide explains it a lot better than I could have. --Khajidha (talk) 10:56, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

From the game's own page: "It does not seem to be officially considered part of the Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity, however; it features several anachronistic appearances by characters who are not time-travelling (the Headmasters, for instance, are shown to be working with their respective factions, when they will not leave their homeworld to do so until 2011), and its events were not included in the painfully comprehensive 2007 timeline." --Emvee (talk) 10:39, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Yes, but the G1 cartoon is canon for the game. It makes numerous reference to the G1 cartoon, and after fighting the clones, Prime even recalls the first time they dealt with one. As this really seems like more of a "technology" thing than a "character" thing, I don't see the harm in merging them. In fact, they're called "Clone Primes" in the English dialogue of the game, and the game tends to be very literal in its translation - I'm sure that means they were "Clone Convoys" in the Japanese, with "Clone Convoy" having been the name used for the original cartoon clone. - Chris McFeely (talk) 11:05, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Yep, agreed and agreed. --Emvee (talk) 11:54, 14 September 2015 (EDT)