Talk:Prowl 2

Jesus, another Prowl?

Reading through this, it's plain that most everyone but Derik is uncomfortable with Prowl 2 being declared one and the same with Prowl II. However, nobody was saying that Prowl 2 was definitively RID Prowl either. Given that the controversy exists at all - and that we have separate Spy Changer Mirage and Mirage GT articles - I think it's dishonest of us to lump Prowl 2 in with RID Prowl as though there was any more proof for that assumption. So that's why I wrote this new article. - Jackpot 03:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

"However, nobody was saying that Prowl 2 was definitively RID Prowl either." Walky was. I'd give a six triliters of energon to see the look on his face when he gets back from BotCon and sees that Prowl 2 is back . . . JW 03:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Lord High Dammit the third, I knew there was going to be an insurmountable pile of terrible crap I'd have to go through after I got back, but didn't expect it from JACKPOT. God dammit. That's it, I quit the wiki. --ItsWalky 03:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry dude, but seriously. Delaring Derik wrong doesn't mean taking the polar opposite side. - Jackpot 03:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm taking the polar opposite side? You removed all mention of Prowl 2 from RiD Prowl's page. That IS the polar opposite side. That is the removing of true information to support a viewpoint. Toys can belong to two different characters. --ItsWalky 03:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't realize that in the case of ambiguity, we could spread a single toy out among various potential characters. In that case, feel free to put it back in, however it's best to state it there. - Jackpot 03:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

There IS circumstantial proof for that assumption, which is that Side Burn and X-Brawn's "Super" redecoes were internally referred to as "Side Burn 2" and "X-Brawn 2" (I don't seem to have any evidence that this was actually the case for Prowl, though I can't imagine it wouldn't be) and that the Spy Changer's deco is a blue/white/blue layout more or less matching the Deluxe redeco's. To me personally it seems ludicrous to think that anyone could have intended this to be anything BUT the same character - in fact, I'd sooner see Mirage GT folded into Mirage's page than have its existence use to support keeping this separated from Prowl's actual page.

But that's just me. (And god damn it I just want to be allowed to edit this Talk page!) -LV 03:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

If this whole argument began and ended with RID, I'd certainly be in favor of rolling it all into RID Prowl's page and giving the controversy a footnote. But given where the term "Prowl 2" has gone since then, I think we need to acknowledge the ambiguity for what it is, just as we acknowledge lots of other ambiguous characters (such as countless Universe redecoes). - Jackpot 03:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Why the deletion?

The latest AVP talks about how Prowl 2 came to exist. No one adds it, so I decide to do it. When it gets added, someone deletes it. Why was that necessary, especially when it gives background to this character that everyone has been curious about? Crossblades 04:45, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Uh...I don't think anyone has? Escargon (talk) 16:52, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

What are you talking about, Crossblades? I don't see any edits by you to this page except one edit from today. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 16:55, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Ok I see what the problem was. I previewed what I added and didn't save. Silly me :P Crossblades 04:56, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Maybe you could see the future? I undid because you just copy/pasted the entry, including a bunch of irrelevant stuff. You need to rewrite in your own words, and change the header text. And fiction should go above the identity section, which should probably be condensed now that it's no longer a mystery and maybe moved to notes. --Giggidy (talk) 17:02, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Well I was in the process of editing till it got removed. But I see what you mean. Crossblades 05:04, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Identity

So is Prowl 2 a separate character, a character who named himself after Prowl (G1) (similar to the G1 and BW versions of Megatron), a version of Prowl (RID), or a version of Prowl II? If he is the Car Robots version of Prowl (RID), shouldn't he be merged with that article (just like Wrecker Hook and Tow-Line, Fire Convoy and Optimus Prime, Gigatron and Megatron, etc.)? Transfan 1992 (talk) 18:34, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Try reading the article? Saix (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I did and I'm kinda confused. Transfan 1992 (talk) 01:04, 19 November 2015 (EST)

Then read this. --Sabrblade (talk) 01:34, 19 November 2015 (EST)