Talk:Scrapheap (episode)

So, uh, just so I don't make a scientific booboo, it, uh, IS kind of weird that the Autobots freeze up and die in the Arctic but not in space, right? Or is that a humidity thing? --ItsWalky 22:14, 18 February 2011 (EST)

It's vacuum, not humidity. To quote TV Tropes' "Space is Cold":

The reason is that heat transmission only occurs in three basic ways: convection (transferring heat into some other substance which then moves away), conduction (transferring heat into some other substance which stays put) and radiation (transferring heat as massless particles, usually light). Since empty space doesn't contain any "other substance", the first two don't work, and the third is much slower.

Down here on Earth, the main way we transfer heat is through convection, transferring our own body heat into the air around us. Since space is a near-perfect vacuum, this is right out. (This actually makes space a very good insulator; consider the vacuum flask. Cooling is actually the biggest difficulty in designing modern spacecraft.) The only way you can get colder is by transferring heat into another object (say, by applying your face to a handy asteroid) or by radiating it out into the vacuum. Heat exchange through radiation is vastly slower.

Heat radiates off very slowly in the vacuum of space. Hence, the reason why Megatron and other TFs can travel through space with little to no problems (so as long their vital fluid lines don't have gaping holes), but will freeze up when hit with enough cold here on Earth because there's pressure. In short, they're more likely to keel over from being cooked into stasis instead of turning into a mech-sicle. --Lonegamer78 22:35, 18 February 2011 (EST)

Aha. Thank you. I suspected the "freeze in space" thing wasn't strictly true, having witnessed similar arguments about pop culture before, but hadn't the scientific chops to say for certain. --ItsWalky 22:44, 18 February 2011 (EST)

Perhaps we should cite a something from NASA (or somebody involved in science) for the note rather than TV Tropes? --FFN 14:56, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Optimus and Arcee's scale "issue".

I've just read in the section about "Animation or technical errors" that there seem to be a few scale problems, especially when Arcee is shown aside Optimus Prime. It is written that: "[...] As they leave on the ground bridge, Arcee comes up to about Prime's sternum. Later, while fighting the snowstorm, she barely reaches his knee." Could that apparent difference in size of Arcee's be just a matter of different perspectives, especially in the scene when she and Optimus are about to leave via the space bridge?

--Sharky7 09:02, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Yeah, I went back and looked, and you're correct. When they leave on the ground bridge, yes, if you're not paying attention, it might look like she's as tall as his ribcage, if you ignore that she had just taken several steps forward, and due to the camera angle, she looks taller than she is. Before she took those steps forward, she just came up to Prime's knee. --ItsWalky 09:39, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Arcee continuity error?

When Arcee is talking to Optimus and mentions Bulkhead's powerline incident, she says "Remember when we first arrived on Earth..." but in the TF: Prime comic, her and Cliffjumper showed up on Earth some time AFTER Optimus, Ratchet, Bumblebee and Bulkhead were already on the planet. So, would this be a continuity error? --Karhukjnsi 06:04, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Since this is a continuity family, I guess the show and comics take place in different, but related continuities.71.255.166.80 22:01, 29 March 2012 (EDT)

Ratchet's Punch

After Ratchet calls for Bumblebee and Bulkhead and the two approach, when Bulkhead says "You can't boss us around 'cause the boss isn't here!" the Autobot medic is seen giving a punch to the control panel of the ground bridge.

Is it just me, or is there no noise heard when he does that (except for Bulkhead's talking and a few sparkles spreading from the panel)? --Sharky7 06:25, 26 February 2011 (EST)

I hear a sound effect when he does that. --abates 16:30, 26 February 2011 (EST)

Yes, I can hear that noise when he first seems to punch the lever (lowing it, actually), but then he is seen giving a punch to the side of that (right before saying "I need some heavy lifting"). That's where I can't hear any "punching noise". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sharky7 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

I hear a sound effect when he does that too. --abates 13:40, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Energon breach "continuity error"

It might not be necessarily an error. If the leak is on the side of the pipe, wouldn't the liquid energon follow the contours of the pipe before dripping down, hence the shot from below? --Lonegamer78 19:02, 27 February 2011 (EST)

I believe it's also plausible that, even if the leak was strictly on the bottom of the pipe, the patch extended up to either side just to reinforce the weakened seam more thoroughly. Mind you, that's still speculation.--Apcog 21:20, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Initially I thought the same thing (the breach being on the side, with the liquid dripping down due to the gravity), but then I thought that if the fluid followed the contours, then it should've slid along the duct, dripping down when reaching half-way. But the energon is seen dripping down in three "streams": one (big) in the middle and two (small) near the opposite sides of the duct. Add to that, when the three kids reach the leaking duct, Jack is seen bowing as if to look beneath the duct itself. In my opinion, he didn't need to do that to see the breach, if it were actually on the side. About the patch the kids do on the duct, it is made only on the side of it. I had to watch that scene again slowing down the video to notice it, because it is clearer only thanks to the light coming from the blowtorch and it can be seen for a rather short time. I also managed to get a screenshot, in case anyone would like to see it. --Sharky7 10:04, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Hm, good point. I was about to add in that we're not sure about the viscosity of that particular liquid energon, it might have an affect. I suppose we could chalk it up to hyping the tension of their current situation? --Lonegamer78 16:30, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Yep, I think we could. --Sharky7 11:15, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Thingy

What WAS that thing that broke out of the pod? It looked nothing like a Scraplet, it looked like a pickaxe, do they have some weapon to burst out? And is it made of Metal? How do the Scraplets have access to a weapon ot cut it out if the pod is designed to keep them in?. --82.39.157.220 11:25, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

That was the leg of a Scraplet. The pod wasn't really made to hold them. It was made to contain them long enough for someone to find them then they would escape and attack.DinoFreakUSA 20:38, 17 September 2011 (EDT)