Talk:Sentinel Prime (One)

Name

Should we call the page Sentinel Prime or just Sentinel? Being a false Prime and all. Liliesrobots (talk) 14:48, 22 September 2024 (EDT)

It's "Sentinel Prime" on all the toy boxes and marketing. It stays where it is. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:17, 22 September 2024 (EDT)

In addition, he's called "Sentinel Prime" for most of the movie, and it's better for the article title to be in line with the other Sentinel's imo. PublicCrown (talk) 15:22, 22 September 2024 (EDT)

Replacement of a Thirteenth Prime

So in the "official" history of Cybertron, Sentinel still says there were Thirteen primes and that he was the last surviving of their comrades. However, all 13 primes have been named and accounted for, meaning Sentinel would have had to erase one of the Prime's names from history to replace it with his own. Is it ever stated which Prime this was? My guess is Zeta (due to that being a stand-in for the 13th Prime), but from what I remember Zeta is shown with the matrix in the revised history records. Can anyone provide any details on who it could be if Sentinel replaced a Prime? Or is this just an oversight? CBT (talk) 14:18, 4 October 2024 (EDT)

There is no oversight. Sentinel was an assistant of sorts to the thirteen Primes, not a proper member of their number. He wanted power for himself and falsely assumed the title of Prime after betraying the real ones in his failed attempt to take the Matrix for himself. His claims to the general public of Iacon City were falsehoods meant to make everyone think he was named their successor. --Sabrblade (talk) 15:37, 4 October 2024 (EDT)

I know all that lol, my question was that since Sentinel still kept all the Primes in the records and only added himself to the list, was there a Prime he had "erased" from the records so as to replace their name with his own and preserve the "Thirteen" number. No matter, I found the answer on the movie page:

The Thirteen are not actually referred to as the "Thirteen", but rather the Primes or the "Council of Elders", a term that originated in Beast Machines. This is likely because it would contradict Sentinel's narrative painting himself as a fourteenth Prime. Notably, none of the archives or displays of the Thirteen include Sentinel."

Should we add this to the page as well to clarify things? CBT (talk) 18:20, 4 October 2024 (EDT)

That doesn't seem necessary. This page already says Sentinel wasn't a Prime and started calling himself one, and it doesn't say there are 13 primes. There's nothing to change. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:23, 4 October 2024 (EDT)

Oh I see now, the primes are only ever referred to as "the Primes" or "Council of Elders", so while there are 13 of them the "Thirteen" isn't said as a title for the group in the movie. Thank you for explaining CBT (talk) 19:48, 4 October 2024 (EDT)