Talk:Smolder (PCC)

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Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- Dark T Zeratul 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - Cattleprod 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

Suppressor is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - Starfield 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

Reverse Evolution Discharge is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --Andrusi 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)

I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.TOM 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

To whoever put in the captions WIN!Dead Metal 13:45, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

I can just imagine him flailing comically on the ground...

Am I the only one who finds the pic of Smolder's toy in his "combiner mode" to be comically stupid-looking? It kinda takes away from the coolness factor when he doesn't have any limbs... Remind me of this really lame creepy-past I read once that told me the ghost of a girl with no arms or legs would come at midnight to kill me or something like that... My point is, I understand WHY that pic is included... The way power-core combiners were designed there is no "one true" combined form for these guys. But may I suggest that instead of having pics of quadraplegic robot toys, we leave just have a seperate pic of the combined form with four random limbs, and a note that explains that this is just one of the many possible combinations possible with this toy? It would better showcase the toy's play-functions in my opinion, not to mention give a better impression of how AWESOME the toy is supposed to look in that mode. --Ascendron 02:40, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Agreed, especially since he isn't correctly transformed in the picture (his leg pegs are pointing forward instead of down for connection).--Khajidha 09:11, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

That's the only way I can get him to stand up in that mode - but feel free to revert to the previous pic, or edit the combined mode out of that one. I don't have any of the drone sets, so someone else will have to take it.--Kookaburra 17:02, 3 September 2010 (EDT)

Movie Continuity?

With his appearance in Cyber Missions shouldn't he be listed as being in the live action film continuity family? --Terrortron 11:35, 16 December 2010 (EST)

He is in the "Cyber Missions characters" category, which itself is a sub-category of "live-action film series characters", so I think that has it covered. - Starfield 12:06, 16 December 2010 (EST)

I think he means in the continuity note. --KilMichaelMcC 23:41, 16 December 2010 (EST)

I'm inclined to say that if Smolder had shown up in the background of Spotlight: Drift, PCCs would have been dumped into the G1iverse basically immediately, but that's neither here nor there. But now with Hasbro's official Q&A word being that PCC don't belong to any continuity, I think the time for that note has passed.

PS Also let's pretend Salvage isn't Salvage while we're at it, Hasbro. -LV 23:49, 16 December 2010 (EST)

I'm just going to add a quick note to the bottom of the page, regarding Smolder's appearance in the Cyber Mission, because there is a logical counter-argument that does explain why he was in the one Cyber Mission, even though he's not in the movie continuity. SteamPunk Astrotrain 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --Detour 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Yes. At this point, with Smolder not some kind of weird outlier as clearly part of the Movie universe, it's time for his page to join us in 2011. -LV 18:29, 29 July 2011 (EDT)