Talk:Till All Are One (Transformers Theme)

Missing lyrics

I've listened to all three versions, but I have no idea what Stan's singing in that middle 8 section. Google brings up a load of user-submitted lyric sites that all claim it says "Galaxy's worried they'll retreat", but I don't buy that. Thoughts? Ideas? Can someone maybe try to corner Stan at BotCon this year and ask him? - Magnus Maximus 03:29, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Didn't this sort already have approval in 2007 when Hasbro showcased it on their Transformers website and it was the BotCon 2007 song? --FFN 07:17, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

At Botcon 2011, I appraoched Stan Bush and asked him about the lyric in question. He said the line is "Galaxies roar! Evil retreats," and he *thinks* but is pretty sure that the rest of the line is "to its darkest corner". So, a good majority of the Internet is way off on that lyric. --Sabrblade 13:03, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Title

Shouldn't it be "'Til All Are One", like the CD? --abates 07:26, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

The WFC credits sequence uses "Till." --ItsWalky 08:34, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Which is good, since "'Til" is an abortion of an English word. —Interrobang 18:26, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

A till is a cash register, or something you do to ground. :) --abates 18:34, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Nah. "Till" in this usage is actually older than the word "until." It's funny, because it's the first thing I ever managed to correct a teacher on. In first grade, the teacher told me I was wrong when I used "till" instead of "'til." I told her to look it up in the dictionary (but not, y'know, condesdendingly, but defensively). I won! I was surprised that I won. But I musta read it somewhere and copied its spelling. --ItsWalky 18:39, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

Ahhh, I feel all topsy turvy now! --abates 19:04, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

For the record, I got the spelling off of the In This Life album/StanBush.com. - Magnus Maximus 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

Hasbro and the cons

If BotCon 1997 wasn't officially sanctioned by Hasbro, why did they get toys and get graced by Hasbro's presence? --ItsWalky 18:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, Dairycon has had a load of toys, and Hasbro were at AutoAssembly 2008 and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - Magnus Maximus 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --Detour 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

That's fair enough, but it still only answers part of the question. But whatever, I really don't care that much. If you guys are saying that there's no discernible difference in the Hasbro/BotCon relationship before and after 2002, and that the decision to not use the word "Transformers" here or anywhere on any of the 3H music albums was a purely stylistic one, and that the best way to explain the situation is to remove all mention of it, then who am I to argue? Do you also contend that Toys-R-Us is basically on par with the Hasbro Toy Shop, because they get given exclusives to sell too, right? - Magnus Maximus 04:50, 10 July 2010 (EDT)

I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --FFN 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007 theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --FFN 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)