Talk:Wheeljack (Movie)

Shouldn't the m in (movie) be capitalized? 70.53.248.58 06:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --ItsWalky 06:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: "I don't remember a Wheeljack mentioned, but sure.". During the fourth story mission, Car Shopping, in Autobots. When you first meet Bumblebee, he tells you (the player-character) to scan a bunch of Earth vehicles, and the player-character mentions Wheeljack gave him some upgrades allowing him to store multiple alternate forms.

Is it worth noting that, according to Ghosts of Yesterday, Bumblebee apparantly also has these upgrades? He quickly assumes a wheeled ATV early after landing to investigate Ghost One, then reverts back to his Protoform in mere minutes (or at least he considers it, and the narration never ever implies it's a lengthy or energy-consuming task.) --Sntint 07:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I read that Wheeljack was originally going to be in the movie on Wikipedia. Is there any truth to that, or is someone yanking my chain? -- SFH 05:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Que

Isn't this guy called Que now?

¡Usa El Queso!

No. Even if he does end up being called "Que" in the film, he'll still be Wheeljack, just like Brawl and Rampage. --Detour 23:28, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Can we get one of those "Hey dumbass, don't edit this if you are only going to add stupid rumors" notes to TRY to stop people from changing this to Que every few days? --Khajidha 14:40, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

"Que" is the worst name in all of Transformers

I really want this to be noted, but his actual page probably isn't the right place. -LV 15:47, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

You think Erector is better? 10.176.65.91 03:41, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

INFINITELY better. -- Semysane 05:55, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

YES. --Andrusi 09:42, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

In my defense of one of my favorite autobots the name is actually supposed to be like Q from a James bond movie, I think it was live and let die. jack Age 11

Name change

The Movie timeline article seems to imply that 'Que' is the name Wheeljack took on after being destroyed and extensively rebuilt. Should this be mentioned in a note?

Desmond Llewyln

Does anybody reminds him that he is much more like actor Desmond Llewyln?

are you sure that wheeljack is que? --Shockwave1704 11:06, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Bumblebee film

Have we gotten any confirmation at all that he's supposed to show up aside from Travis Knight saying "maybe"? Escargon (talk) 10:35, 3 October 2018 (EDT)

Splitting Que and Wheeljack

shouldn't we move ROTB Wheeljack's stuff to a new page just like we did for ROTB Mirage? --Dictionaryabot 03:43, 7 june 2023 (EST)

Going to push for this as well, if only for consistency's sake. Question is, what do we do about the Bumblebee guy? Escargon (talk) 07:08, 10 June 2023 (EDT)

I would argue splitting into a new section, but not a new page. If Galvatron the crazed upgrade of Megatron and Galvatron the primitive warlord can both live on Galvatron (G1), both Wheeljacks can live on a "live action movie" contnuity family. AkibaSilver (talk) 13:19, 10 June 2023 (EDT)

Except both Galvatrons look the same and ultimately have the same basic characterization. Que and the Wheeljack of ROTB are ultimately nothing alike; Que is more along the lines of classic inventor Wheeljack, while ROTB Wheeljack seems mainly to be a more general research type. Escargon (talk) 12:37, 10 June 2023 (EDT)

I've been anticipating this and am mostly in favor of ROTB Wheeljack getting his own page, but keeping BB Wheeljack on the same page as DOTM Wheeljack/Que. The latter had that Movie Advanced toy that was as much influenced by G1 Wheeljack as BB Wheeljack's design is, so DOTM Que still has enough Wheeljack in him for the BB guy to stay. ROTB Wheeljack, however, is kind of a youngster in the movie, which neither the BB nor DOTM 'Jacks were. --Sabrblade (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2023 (EDT)

With the franchise officially maintaining the line that this still a prequel, I think a split is absolutely warranted. I would lean towards keeping the Bee Movie guy with the ROTB guy, though - that feels less subjective to me than making calls based on what kind of off-screen merch characters had. Jalaguy (talk) 05:47, 11 June 2023 (EDT)

Steve Blum voiced BB Wheeljack like a middle-aged man, akin to how Chris Latta made G1 Wheeljack sound. ROTB Wheeljack sounds like he just graduated high school. --Sabrblade (talk) 12:10, 11 June 2023 (EDT)

Count me for another vote of "definitely split". On-screen they have basically nothing connecting them beyond the vaguest archetype of "smart guy" - not even the name! That said, I'd agree with keeping the Bumblebee prologue character on this page; Que has the explicit connection of "toys of him that look like G1 Wheeljack", which ROTB Wheeljack doesn't. --Riptide (talk) 19:22, 12 June 2023 (EDT)

Put me down in the "BeastJack goes, BeeJack stays" column as well. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2023 (EDT)

Yeah I'm with this split decision aswell, the only thing associated with ROTB Wheeljack is him fixing things which is literally quoted once by Mirage, but he doesn't really scream scientist nor "brilliant mechanical engineer" unlike the original Wheeljack or even Que as the matter of fact. And the whole changing accents from normal generic American accent, to then Latino and then half-English/Scottish/Irish/German is absolutely inconsistent. He really is in my headcanon just Wheeljack Jr., the son of Wheeljack. -- Pandatee 01 (talk) 12:35, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

Even though ROTB and BB Wheeljack are portrayed fairly differently, the ROTB and BB movies still have tighter continuity between each other than ROTB has with the Bay movies. Also, as far as the movies are concerned, DOTM Wheeljack is named Que.--Primestar3 (talk) 09:36, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

I think we're jumping the gun here and not giving ROTB the proper amount of time it needs to give us more information on its incarnation of the character. The movie just came out and there's almost zero supporting fiction or official statements out there, but it may change soon. Maybe a motion comic showing how Wheeljack changed from BB to ROTB will be included as a DVD bonus, maybe Caple Jr will declare him as a separate character in the director's commentary, maybe a two-pack of Wheeljack toys or even a G1-inspired deco of one of the ROTB toys is just around the corner, and we'll have our definitive answear. All I'm saying is, it's worth waiting just a little bit longer to avoid regretting it later. If nothing of the sorts happens at least for the next few months, then I think it's fair game to make the split. -- Fritz (talk) 10:29, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

I think it's a bit late to be like "we should wait to see what happens" given we've already split out Mirage. Escargon (talk) 10:57, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

Maybe, maybe, maybe. We can merge back if needed. We shouldn't be relying on what ifs. Saix (talk) 10:58, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

Fair enough, just wanted to have that cleared out. Let's work with what we have for now, then. -- Fritz (talk) 11:44, 13 June 2023 (EDT)

I think the Bumblebee Wheeljack and ROTB Wheeljack should be considered one and the same, at the very least, as ROTB is a direct sequel to BB. Jman98 (talk) 11:52, 19 June 2023 (EDT)

Renaming and splitting

I know it’s too early to say anything but a future Studio Series listing was apparently Que if it’s released and it’s decided to rename this page as Que I think some of this should be split off into Wheeljack (Movie) mainly featuring info and images about the Wheeljack that’s G1 accurate. T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 20:29, 2 March 2024 (EST)

No. --M Sipher (talk) 01:59, 3 March 2024 (EST)

Elaborate? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 17:22, 4 March 2024 (EST)

The Wheeljack/Que split has already been discussed to death, and we're not going to relitigate it less than a year after the last time, especially not based on a supposed leak. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:37, 4 March 2024 (EST)

I had no idea this was discussed before alright? Don't chew me up okay? I wasn't saying we do it right away alright. I was just saying to take that into account if it ever were to be a reality. That's all. T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 23:04, 4 March 2024 (EST)

Now the possibility of renaming and splitting up

With the reveal at MCM Comic Con I think it's safe to assume that it can be discussed about renaming and splitting information here? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 12:12, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

Again, no. There's still enough reason to keep this page as it is and I don't think that's ever going to change. -- Fritz (talk) 13:25, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

sometimes characters go by more than one name jesus christ stop --M Sipher (talk) 13:54, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

So it's okay Dino gets to be separate from Mirage? Based on what? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 14:12, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

Because DOTM Dino and ROTB Mirage were conceptually and fundamentally conceived as entirely separate characters, just like ROTB Wheeljack was from both DOTM Que and BBM Wheeljack. The latter two, however, share the same origin story as incarnations of the original (G1) Wheeljack adapted to fit the movie they appear in. So no matter how different they may look, they are supposed to be the same character. (it also doesn't matter if the movies are directly tied into each other or not, please don't bring that can of worms up too) -- Fritz (talk) 14:51, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

Renaming the page "Que" is a possibility we could discuss given the consistency it would have with Dino's page, but splitting out BB Wheeljack from this page is absolutely unnecessary. Not just for all the reasons Fritz gave, but also because Que has already received toy and comic appearances that made him look more like G1 Wheeljack, with the comics even indicating that he underwent a reconstruction from his G1-based design to his Einstein skull design from DOTM, changing his name in the process a la "Bumblebee to Goldbug". And even with our having moved Dino's page to that name, we still acknowledge on his page that he was also named "Mirage" in many other appearances, and thus he is still considered *A* Mirage even though ROTB Mirage is a separate Mirage. --Sabrblade (talk) 15:53, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

I thought the discussion had now a bullet in the head [User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] so why discuss any further? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 16:13, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

Besides Fritz and MSipher clearly hate me now. Why make it worse? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 16:15, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

This is a collaborative project where people are going to disagree with you, sometimes in snarky tones. Please get thicker skin and stop self-victimizing. Saix (talk) 16:19, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

"Snarky" "Self-victimizating" I just asked them a question and thought there was a reason for what I said and the moment I say it I'm treated like a felon. Especially by MSipher who I asked a question /help on his talk page and I got no response. Now everyone let's kill this conversation please? T9ol-Fun3e (talk) 16:34, 26 October 2024 (EDT)

The issue is that you were the one who brought it back up when it's been discussed to death as seen by the discussion threads above your earlier March 2024 "Renaming and splitting" thread and this current thread on this Talk page. So to close out, no, we won't be discussing about renaming and splitting. --Lonegamer78 (talk) 00:05, 27 October 2024 (EDT)