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If your changes to an article are being repeatedly reverted, you need to discuss the issue on the relevant talk page. --abates (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2020 (EST)
- I am giving you a brief timeout. Please do as I have asked above and discuss the changes you want to make as obviously other users are disagreeing with them. --abates (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2020 (EST)
Skipjack and Payload
[edit]There are no sources that say that the unnamed bulldozer and dump truck are meant to be Skipjack and Payload, as far as I'm aware. If you can come up with one, feel free to present it, but until then, stop adding that to those pages. Escargon (talk) 21:29, 9 February 2020 (EST)
- Basically, what you are doing is adding supposition and fanfic, and those are not to be presented as fact on this wiki. --M Sipher (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2020 (EST)
- Unless you can show us evidence that Payload and Skipjack exist in ROTF, do not add this to the wiki. If you do it again, you will recieve another time-out. Grum (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2020 (EST)
- Payload and Skipjack are the yellow unnamed bulldozer and yellow unnamed dump truck that appeared in Revenge Of The Fallen, if you don't trust me i got some evidences to prove it, the Payload (Movie) article on this site, says that he is a decepticon and a constructicon, on the toys shown on the toys section from the same article, the Payload toy from the 2010 toyline transforms into a yellow dump truck, on the toys shown on the Skipjack (ROTF) article on this site, Skipjack turns into a yellow bulldozer and on the Devastator combination scene on the top of the cliff there's a yellow bulldozer (which is Skipjack's vehicle mode), and a yellow dump truck (which is Payload's vehicle mode), now you might say hasbro just repainted their Revenge Of The Fallen Long Haul to make more money on the figure and that the dump truck on the cliff is Long Haul because the sunlight makes it look yellow when is actually green, but that's not true because Long Haul appears next to Skids and Mudflap before combining and Skids and Mudflap weren't on a cliff when that happened. as for Skipjack you might say that takara tomy did the same thing hasbro does, and repainted hasbro's Hunt For The Decepticons legends class Rampage to make more money on the toy and they are actually two robots with the same body-type with different colors and because of that the decepticons decided to name them both as Rampage, but i'll have to disagree, because Rampage is red and Skipjack is yellow, because they share the same body-type, and this concept of different colors on multiple robots with the same body-type is used to be much easier to know who is who, just like Scavenger and Demolishor, which share the same body-type but have different colors, well that's it i hope you understand what i'm trying to explain here, thanks! -- Transformersbrasil (talk) 2:27, 13 February 2020 (EST)
- All of this is entirely speculative and circumstantial. It is not enough evidence for us to actually say that the unnamed dump truck is Payload. Stop making edits about Payload or the dump truck or you will be given another time-out. This is your last warning. Riptide (talk) 14:44, 13 February 2020 (EST)
Goodbye
[edit]Skipjack and Payload are the yellow bulldozer and yellow dump truck that appeared on the top of the cliff during Devastator combine scene from transformers revenge of the fallen, because the source comes from the movie itself and the evidences comes from the toys, i'am not making this up, i never did any speculation, or fanfiction or supposition or anything like that, and i'll never do it on this site ever, because if i was really a speculation fanfiction and supposition creator, i wound't have sign on this site to edit those articles in first place, i would just keep it to myself and tell about it only to my friends on school or in videos that i would post or share on my social mídia, and let those articles alone just like how they were before i sign in and how they are now, i didn't wanted to cause any trouble i just wanted to fix, expand, add, and create articles, but now do to the way you are treating me, with undoing my changes to fix, my expansions and additions on articles, and saying that if do it again, you all would block me, i see now that being sign to tfwiki was a huge waste of time for me, so fine i hope you're all glad of everything as they are now and the way you've all have been treating me, cause after i post this discussion on this and my talk page, i will log out of tfwiki to stay away from it forever, and i won't log in to this site never again, goodbye! --Transformersbrasil (talk) 2:16, 17 February 2020 (EST)
- Look. You're clearly young, and I assume English isn't your first language. I sympathise with how frustrating it must be that your edits keep getting reverted. But the fact of the matter is that no official media have ever connected the bulldozer and dump truck with Skipjack and Payload beyond "they're yellow and have the same alternate mode", and given that fact, the wiki can't say that they are. It's not a personal attack on you, it's simply that the wiki's canon policy doesn't work that way - we can't take it as assumed that they're the same character just because they're similar. I hope you understand, and if you do choose to return you'll keep contributing in a more helpful way. --Riptide (talk) 14:26, 17 February 2020 (EST)
I'm back
[edit]well, i understand what you're telling me, i just want you to know that, i'am not a speculation, fanfiction and supposition creator, since i only like to pass official information about everything that exists about transformers, and i would edit only if i found a piece of information that it's not in the article, or if i found something that's not correct about it to fix-it, speaking of fixing, expanding and adding, i just want you to understand that Skipjack and Payload are in fact the yellow bulldozer and yellow dump truck that appeared on the top of the cliff during Devastator combine scene from transformers revenge of the fallen, because like i said, the source comes from the movie itself and the evidences comes from the toys, and yes, i know that no official media have ever connected the bulldozer and dump truck with Skipjack and Payload beyond "they're yellow and have the same alternate mode", since the wiki can't say that they are because the wiki's canon policy doesn't work that way, but if hasbro and takara tomy released theses figures with the same vehicle mode that appeared in that scene from the movie, than it means that Skipjack and Payload are in fact the yellow bulldozer and yellow dump truck, even though it's only one evidence that we have, at least it's an official media that connects the bulldozer and dump truck with Skipjack and Payload, and that's it, from now on i'm going to use the discussion page on every article before editing to tell what i found and why i want to make the edit, and i hope i'am accepted this time, so with all of that said, i hope you understand why i wanted to quit and why i came back, thanks! and remember "till all are one". --Transformersbrasil (talk) 12:50, 20 February 2020 (EST)
- But that is still YOU making the SUPPOSITION that there is a connection. That's the point we are trying to get across to you. Yes, a yellow bulldozer and yellow dump truck appeared in the movie. Yes, Hasbro and Takara released figures with the same vehicle mode. BUT they never said that these figures are the same characters as the yellow bulldozer and dump truck in the movie. There is no official media making that connection. --Khajidha (talk) 13:04, 20 February 2020 (EST)
- 1st, i'am not making any "SUPPOSITION" that there is a connection, because i'm not a speculation, fanfiction and supposition creator, since i only like to pass official information about everything that exists about transformers, and i would edit only if i found a piece of information that it's not in the article, or if i found something that's not correct about it to fix-it, and 2nd, sure Hasbro and Takara may had never said that these figures are the same characters as the yellow bulldozer and dump truck in the movie, but if the figures have the same vehicle mode as the yellow bulldozer and yellow dump truck, than it's indeed an official media that Skipjack and Payload are the bulldozer and dump truck in the movie, now three questions, 1st, why didn't you read the entire "I'm back" part from the discussion section to understand my situation?, 2nd why did you wrote something like this to offend me? and 3rd, why are you talking to me instead of Riptide talking to me in first place? anyways go ahead, continue your offense againts me, because i want you all to know that Hasbro and Takara Tomy are releasing an Studio Series Skipjack, meaning that Skipjack is the yellow bulldozer that forms the left foot, and if Hasbro and Takara Tomy release an Studio Series Payload in the future, than it means that Payload is the yellow dump truck that forms the left leg, and if this happens, it means that everything i'm saying about Skipjack and Payload being the yellow bulldozer and dump truck is true!, and one final thing, if what saying turn out to be true, DON'T TELL ME I DIN'T WARNED YOU!. so Khadija, I HATE YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID TO ME, AND PLEASE DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOVE, BECAUSE NOW I'M VERY VERY VERY ANNOYED! bye. --Transformersbrasil (talk) 20:25, 20 February 2020 (EST)