Editing FIRRIB

{{quote|Yes, in AHM Rumble is RED.|[[Joana Lafuente]] <ref>[http://khaamar.deviantart.com/art/All-Hail-Megatron-9-cover-112520321 Joana LaFuente's response.]</ref>|center=true}}
{{quote|Okay guys, let's get this right this time. Rumble is BLUE, Frenzy is RED!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]] <ref>[http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/2008/12/first-we-crack-shell.html Derrick Wyatt's opinion]</ref>|center=true}}
{{quote|[Frenzy]'s blue because Hasbro said so.|[[Shane McCarthy]] <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvrLk_6Seo#t=28s Shane McCarthy's response during IDW's panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2008.]</ref>|center=true}}
[[File:Rumble and frenzy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.]]
An [[Abbreviations|acronym]] sometimes bandied about by fans, '''FIRRIB''' means "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is red, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is blue". The phrase originated on [[alt.toys.transformers]] circa [[1994]], essentially as a (largely joking) rallying cry for those who favored [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] over various other media portrayals of the Transformers. In time, the counterpoint '''FIBRIR''' emerged, standing for "Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red". The forms '''RIBFIR''' and '''RIRFIB''' are also known.

The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]]s, Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]'s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show's [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the "red robot"). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red. 

Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[Fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic.

The FIRRIB movement was codified by a cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994,<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&amp;q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]</ref> who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on alt.toys.transformers, frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group's FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&amp;q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]</ref>

The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters' names around.

As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:

Items in the following table are listed in release order. E.g., the original toys came first.

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!
!Frenzy
!Rumble
|-
![[The Transformers (toyline)|Original toys]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"| Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|-
![[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comics]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"| Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|-
![[The Transformers (cartoon)|US cartoon]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Japanese cartoon]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Ladybird Books]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Kid Stuff]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Dreamwave Generation One continuity]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[2005 IDW continuity]] 
|'''SEE BELOW'''
|-
![[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]] toys
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Diamond Select Toys|Diamond Select]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[Transformers Music Label|Music Label]] earphones
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers G1: Awakening|G1: The Awakening]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers (2010 toyline)]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#00f;background:#fff;"|Blue (canceled)
|-
![[Transformers United]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]] 
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers: Devastation]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers: Earth Wars]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"| none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|-
![[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|War for Cybertron: Siege]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"| none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|}

It is generally agreed that pointing out Rumble was actually ''purple'' in the original cartoon is not helpful.

==2005 IDW continuity==
The treatment of Rumble and Frenzy in IDW comics bears special mention. Some might believe that this "controversy" is not to be taken seriously, but IDW comics show that FIRRIB/FIBRIR is being fought to this day on the battlefields of the publisher's art and editing rooms. Whereas most entries on this list at least remain consistent within a given continuity, FIRRIB/FIBRIR has changed ''repeatedly'' back-and-forth in IDW comics over the years.

Rumble and Frenzy first appeared in IDW's early limited series, ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]''. Seen in their toy colors of one blue and one red-and-black, the duo went the entire series without being individually addressed by name. Although the red robot used piledrivers on occasion, at the time this was potentially ambiguous thanks to prior media, such as the Generation 1 cartoon, depicting both Rumble and Frenzy with those weapons. However, IDW's stance on the matter appeared to be cemented in their next appearance, ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]'', which firmly established Rumble as a red robot with piledrivers and Frenzy as a blue robot with sonic powers and drills. This setup continued into the era of [[The Transformers (IDW)|the new ongoing series]], with Frenzy's appearance in companion miniseries ''[[The Transformers: Bumblebee|Bumblebee]]'' coloring him blue.

''However'', when the duo were reunited to appear in the ongoing series itself, they were switched to their cartoon configuration; the sonic-blasting Frenzy was now red-and-black, while piledriving Rumble was distinctively cartoon purple. After the ongoing series' conclusion, the FIRRIB layout returned in the digital series ''[[The Transformers: Autocracy|Autocracy]]'', set during the early days of the war.

Subsequently, as cast members of the ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' series, the duo have undergone yet more color switches. After an unnamed cameo for the red-and-black robot in [[The Autonomy Lesson (issue)|issue 1]], Rumble and Frenzy reappeared in the [[Priscilla Tramontano]]-colored [[The End of the Beginning of the World|issue 11]] with Rumble firmly back as the red-and-black cassette and Frenzy, for the first time ever, colored cartoon purple. For their subsequent, [[Josh Perez]]-colored appearances during the Decepticon uprising, the duo had new tank bodies built for them, and Frenzy was toy blue instead of cartoon purple. When Tramontano returned to color issues [[Shockpoint|21]] and [[Soundwaves (issue)|22]], she once again utilized red-and-black and cartoon purple color schemes, only now pile-driving Rumble was purple and Frenzy was red!

Quite which of these numerous color changes are the result of deliberate artistic choice, innocent mistake, or even Hasbro mandate is wholly unclear.

==Similar cases==
[[File:AutoBerserk-Grapple.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Rare toy-accurate Grapple cartoon appearance!]]
While the coloration of Frenzy and Rumble is the most well-known instance of the original cartoon's color choices not matching the [[toy]]s its [[character]]s are based on, there are similar cases, some of which have also resulted in fan dissent regarding the question which is to be considered the "correct" coloration for the character in question:
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]'s toy sported a black head, but possibly in order to differentiate him further from his [[mold]]-mate [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys|Sideswipe]], the cartoon changed the head's color to red. His comic appearances usually use the toy's black head, while new toys are a mixed bag ([[TakaraTomy]] leans more towards a [[show-accuracy|cartoon-accurate]] red head, while [[Hasbro]] appears to prefer the original toy's black head). Thus far, however, none of Takara's [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]] of the original toy have featured a show-accurate red head (as the headpiece is molded together with other components of the figure, such as the fists, front calf plates, and front bumper, as evidenced on [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|G2]] Sideswipe having these components in red).
[[File:Unitedtoy-AutobotGrapple.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Cartoon-accurate Grapple toy!]]
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]'s original toy sported a black head, but the cartoon changed it to orange, possibly to differentiate him further from his mold-mate [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. The episode "[[Auto Berserk]]", however, consistently gave him a (mostly) toy-accurate black head. The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comics]] once again followed the toy's coloration.
*[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]] is a huge mess: While early catalogs depicted him in a blue and silver deco based on his original [[Diaclone]] colors, which is also used for the [[instructions]] and the toy's [[package art]], the toy itself sports an entirely silver deco for the vehicle mode. The cartoon, on the other hand, gave him a silver and black vehicle mode deco based on ''another'' Diaclone color scheme. Later toys have alternatively used variations of any of the three color schemes, although only Takara have thus far released a reissue of the original toy in "show colors" through [[e-HOBBY]], and there has been no reissue in the "blue" Diaclone deco at all yet.
*Although [[Ratchet (G1)/toys|Ratchet]]'s toy doesn't really ''have'' a head (simply a "face" [[sticker]] on a seat), he was given a proper head for his character model. However, said head is colored differently across various media: Whereas the cartoon features a white helmet with a black crest, the Marvel comics instead feature a red helmet with a white crest with [[Nelson Yomtov|surprising consistency]]. The [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave comics]] alternate between the two versions, with the ''[[Transformers: The War Within|War Within]]'' comics using the Marvel colors and the various ''[[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation 1]]'' titles favoring the cartoon color scheme. The [[2005 IDW continuity]] follows the Marvel red-with-white-crest helmet in the present day, with flashbacks to a "young" Ratchet in ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' giving him a red helmet with ''black'' crest, similar to the way [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] has been shown to have "greyed". Modern toys mostly follow the cartoon version again, with the exception of the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Deluxe Class figure]], which ''inverts'' the Marvel colors, sporting a white helmet with a ''red'' crest. Some other figures (such as ''[[Kre-O]]'' [[Ratchet (Kre-O)#Kre-O|Ratchet]] and ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)#Bot Shots|Ratchet]]) have followed suit, and in addition, the latter version also [[:File:Devastation5 Ratchet Jazz.jpg|appeared in error]] in [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: Devastation|Devastation]]'' limited series, but was corrected for the trade paperback collection to his standard red-with-white.
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]]'s cartoon color scheme is based on his blue-chested ''Diaclone'' predecessor rather than his red-chested ''Transformers'' release.
*Then there's the thing with [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]'s [[character model|animation model]] using the colors of an early [[prototype]] (as shown in early [[stock photography|catalogs]]), while the actual toy sports an entirely different deco... and Takara released a variation of the toy in yet ''another'' different deco. Takara later released a reissue of the original toy in a color scheme resembling (but not identical to) the prototype through e-HOBBY, while other toys by Hasbro and Takara have been alternatively based on any of the three decos.
*On a smaller, but far more widespread scale, the cartoon tended to color-code the eyes of characters by faction, especially in the first two years: Autobots had blue eyes, Decepticons had red eyes. Meanwhile, in the toyline, many of the larger toys in both factions had yellow eyes, a lot of the smaller ones had silver eyes, and it wasn't uncommon to see red-eyed Autobots (most notably [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]). Modern figures tend to stick to the cartoon rules, but there are exceptions; Grimlock's toys and modern designs overwhelmingly favor red eyes, and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] is known to have yellow eyes on occasion.

==Notes==
[[File:RumbleisRed.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Product #5731 also includes [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]].]]
*In the season 1 episode "[[Heavy Metal War]]", [[Teletraan I]] displays files on the Decepticons. The texts are, for the most part, lifted directly from the show's [[production bible]], including Hasbro's product code numbers for the toys (which are listed on the toys' [[packaging]]). As a consequence, Rumble (misspelled "Runble") is given the detail "red robot".
*The ''[[Reveal the Shield]]'' "Demolition Rumble" toy, which was ultimately [[unreleased toy|never released]] due to the cancellation of the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'' toy line]], would have been the first Hasbro-released toy to follow the cartoon coloration. Even more oddly, though, the deco was specifically based on the gold weapon [[variant]] of the Generation 1 Frenzy toy available in 1986.
*Hasbro's [[Aligned continuity family]] material, such as ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'', the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|toyline]], and the ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' portion of the [[Transformers: Generations|''Generations'' toyline]], uses the G1 cartoon's "FIRRIB" color choices for its [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] characters, whilst Takara continued to use "FIBRIR" for their version of the ''Prime'' and ''Generations'' toylines. Though clearly patterned after their Generation 1 predecessors, they represent different-universe versions of these [[character]]s, so they're listed here instead of the chart above.
*Similarly, the ''[[Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game)|Angry Birds Transformers]]'' incarnations of [[Frenzy (AB)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (AB)|Rumble]] use the cartoon's "FIRRIB" color choices, but are technically considered separate entities from the above, having started as pigs before being turned into [[Deceptihog]]s.
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==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.lilformers.com/blog/2007/03/20/03202007/ LilFormers' answer to this dilemma.]
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