Editing User talk:Cybertron Forever

== Dylan Gould's pets ==

How many pets does Dylan Gould has? because in [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]], when the [[Chicago]] invasion began, he mentioned dogs in plural when he ordered their transfer to the back of his apartment in [[Trump Tower]], which means is more than one, and later when [[Carly Spencer|his prisioner]] was observing [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] through a telescope, it's possible to see two dogs, but i fear that he has more than just two, and more animal species beyond just dogs as pets. If anyone knows how many he has, just type it here the answer. Thanks! --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 10:15, 23 November 2020 (EST)
:I'm currently rewatching the film right now and I just wanted to let you know that from what I can see, Dylan only refers to them on-screen as "the dogs". I'll wait until the credits and see If I can find anything else that may make mention of them. If you're serious about making a page for them I think the most suitable name for the page would be '''Dylan Gould's Dogs'''. If you would like, I would be more than willing to start the page and the dog actor pages up with the information that we and Abates have found on them. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 03:15, 8 December 2020 (EST)
::Just thought I'd update you, we've made the pages for the [[Dylan Gould's watchdogs|in-film roles]] and the [[Shooter and Hottie|actors themselves]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:55, 9 December 2020 (EST)

== Signing ==

:Please type four tildes like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after each message on a talk page instead of typing your signature yourself. The wiki will automatically code your signature with an accurate timestamp. You'll also find it at the bottom of the screen in the box of templates whenever you make edits to pages under "'''Sign your name:'''" 
:Thanks. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:29, 27 November 2020 (EST)

:Wow that's an very useful typing tip, thanks! Also did you noticed that i made talked to you in your talk page two days ago? --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 17:07, 30 November 2020 (EST)

== Deletion of character pages. ==

Do not put character pages up for deletion because the same information is on a subgroup page. Subgroup pages are not made for character read ups, only for collective plot references. Subgroup pages are made to have as little information regarding the individuals as possible as the individual character pages are made for that purpose. As for the [[Twins (ROTF)|Twins]] page, there are still discussions on Discord being carried out on whether or not the page should exist. We admit that it is not very fair on the other users that aren't in the Discord server as the discussions can't be seen by them, but this is the only way we have been able to reply instantly and not have questions that would usually be made in discussion pages being left unanswered. Also, on a side note, please read talk pages on main articles before making any big edits, as there can sometimes be crucial information found there (ie: the Twins page discussion on only have their combined toys listed).

We thank you for your dedication into making pages and edits into things that we have missed. We are all guilty of making mistakes from time to time, so no harm done, that's the beauty of being able to revert and edit things! [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:04, 15 December 2020 (EST)

:It's ok, i also make mistakes sometimes, it won't happen again. Thanks! --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 21:04, 19 December 2020 (EST)

== Before you make any big changes... ==
Hello! I've noticed you taking on large projects and performing large edits. In general, before you carry out a task like that, please discuss it either on the [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal|Community Portal]] or our [https://discord.com/channels/656241088826441729/656248887534944265 Discord page]. I highly recommend the Discord, since you can often talk with other editors in real time! Please do ''not'' make decisions to do large edits by using a particular user's talk page (such as abates or Fanofcoolstuff). That won't get you the consensus of other editors. Thank you! [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 18:19, 17 January 2021 (EST)


==Changing image captions==
As per [[Transformers Wiki:Captions|our captions policy]], you should not be changing image captions written by other users (unless there is a community consensus that a joke is bad/offensive/etc.). Please do not keep changing the caption on the Dino article – consider this a formal warning on the matter. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:36, 28 January 2021 (EST)

== Talk page edits ==

Hi, please don't make small talk page edits to complain no one has responded to you yet. People will respond to your messages when and if they can. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:44, 31 January 2021 (EST)

==Talk page use==

Please cease using talk pages for trying to start discussions on fan theories you have, they are meant for discussions on improving the page, not fanon. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 21:39, 11 February 2021 (EST)

:Okay, i won't do it again. In fact, every mistake i do that everyone talk to me about in my talk page i fix and stop repeating, Prime Radiant once told me to talk about big changes on the community portal, and now i'm doing that. Jalaguy, told me to not change the image captions made other users, so i'm not doing this anymore. Abates told me to not make small edits to complain no one has replied to me, so i'm not doing it. So if i'm saying i won't use talk pages to start discussions my theories, than i won't do it never again. You have my word. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 23:15, 11 February 2021 (EST)

== Some writing tips. ==

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Hi there, first of all I wanted to say that your collaborations to the wiki are very appreciated, but please be a little more careful with your grammar and always proofread your edits before saving them. You frequently mispells the names of characters/movies/TV shows/etc and writes some of their initial letters in lowercase when they should be in uppercase. I also noticed that you sometimes try to translate by yourself the titles of movies and TV shows from their Brazilian titles back to English, when it would take you mere seconds to search the web for their actual original titles and use them instead. And one more tip, the correct spelling is always "a Brazilian" and never "an Brazilian".

Again, you're doing a fine job overall so please don't take this badly, I just want to help you improve your skills before your edits start to be reverted for not being up to standards.--[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 14:40, 19 February 2021 (EST)

== Regarding your edits on the Dylan Gould-related pages ==

Can you please stop on the undo-edits war? And as the others have said, you're reading a bit too much into it regarding Dylan. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 18:44, 24 February 2021 (EST)

:Sorry if i caused trouble by doing that but the thing is the edits that i've done on those pages are based on what i found out by reading the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|DOTM novelization]] and the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|IDW comic adaptation]], and i'm including them here so that they can be more complete. And the reason i'm doing this with them is because i HATE DYLAN GOULD! I hate him so much that just by looking at his face or his bodyguards or [[Dylan Gould's assistant|his assistant]] or [[Dylan Gould's watchdogs|his dogs]], i have the feeling that i gonna have an heart-attack. I only created his assistant's page so that i could create the page about [[Hotchkiss Gould Investments]], since i decided i would create it once the company's most known employees had their pages, and his assistant was the only one who didn't have-it at that time. And i asked about creating an article about his dogs since i couldn't help but to feel sorry for them, from being adopted by an evil human and to be traumatized by hearing the fire that killed all of his body guards in the attack at [[Trump Tower]] and surviving the onslaught just like how Dylan did. I know that what i said about his body guards dying in the slaughter sounds like speculation, but read the parts where i talked to Abates and Fanocoolstuff27 in [[User_talk:Abates#Human_Collaborators|their]] [[User_talk:Fanofcoolstuff27#Human_Collaborators|talk]] pages to learn more. And i'm still talking with them about it, in fact i found more evidences about that fact in the novelization and comic adaptation themselves and i'll tell this to them later. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 19:17, 24 February 2021 (EST)
::If you hate Dylan so much maybe you should consider not editing his page anymore. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:06, 24 February 2021 (EST)
:::I want to stop, but first i need to include every single info about him and everything related to him that everyone here are still glossing over. Exemple: in the novel and comic adaptation Dylan ordered [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to execute the Autobot prisoners just because [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] destroyed his apartment. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 20:16, 24 February 2021 (EST)
::::That you want to add info to the wiki about Gould and his company is fine. In regards to you "hating" Gould, like Fritz said, you would be better off of not editing his page in the future, because those recent edits aren't contributing anything substantive to the wiki. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 20:26, 24 February 2021 (EST)
:::::I will stop, i just need to make this edit about this detail in her page that his assistant was killed after the party where he revealed to [[Sam Witwicky]] that he works for the Decepticons, that in the novel and comic he ordered Soundwave to kill the prisoners because of what Bumblebee did to his apartment, and that his body guards died in the slaughter that occurred in Trump Tower and i'm done with it. His assistant's death is obvious since she is a human collaborator and in the movie [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ordered them to kill all the collaborators in the moment set in africa, but his body guards' deaths is gonna be hard to convince, since almost everyone on this wiki don't believe that, only Renato, my parents, our friends from college before Renato and i got married and the members from our transformers' fan club do believe that, specially because they're the one who showed me evidences of their deaths in the novelization and IDW comic adaptation, so before i do those edits, i'll talk to Abates and Fanocoolstuff27 first. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 22:23, 24 February 2021 (EST)
::::::This is ''still'' just speculation. She doesn't appear any further in the film past the big reveal of working with the Decepticons. Please stop trying to convince us of speculative information that isn't displayed in any media. The wiping out of collaborators took place at the beginning-to-mid section of the film, Dylan Gould's revelation takes place in the mid-to-end section. There is absolutely no evidence that Dylan's workers were killed as part of Laserbeak/Soundwave/any other Decepticon's assassinations, nor Bumblebee's gun fire on the apartment.  [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 22:40, 24 February 2021 (EST)
:::::::I'm not trying to convince anyone with theories, i'm telling what i know and learned. They were killed because they're collaborators and Megatron ordered them to '''''kill all of them''''', his assistant was probably killed after the party just happening off-screen and as i read in the answers to my questions in [[Talk:Hotchkiss Gould Investments|his company's talk page]] we can only include facts established onscreen, so i won't edit her page, but his body guards did died, because we saw them panicking when Bumblebee opened fire at the apartment and he did that because he felt that they should all pay for their crimes with their lives, besides as i'm saying a lot of times on Fanocoolstuff27 and Abates pages, besides that there is the superhero movie clichê where the villain and all of his henchmen are standing still, witnessing the hero escape after saving the one they love, and that happened in the film in the form of Dylan approaching the edge of his apartment after the fire was over and as we could see, no body guards where with him to see the Orbital Assault Carrier falling from the sky, nor they were with him when he approached [[35 East Wacker]] to inform about the Autobots' survival and didn't even shown their disgustingly ugly faces when Dylan ordered Soundwave to kill the prisoners. Last but no least, in the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|''DOTM'' novelization]] Dylan survived the onslaught by throwing himself backward, hitting the floor on the opposite side of the living room from where the fire was occuring, and at the time Bumblebee opened fire, everyone inside Trump Tower where on the room that was obliterated by the guns' bullets (that's the evidence that confirms the deaths of his bodyguards that comes from the novelization that i mentioned before. I was going ti write this in Abates and Fanocoolstuff27's talk pages, but because of what he wrote to answer me, i decided to do it here). Fanocoolstuff27, if you're reading this and think that what my last is all invented by me, go read the novel and you'll see that it's written like this quote: 'The guns aboard the fighter plane cut loose, strafing the penthouse apartment, blasting Laserbeak against the wall. Dylan threw himself backward, hitting the floor on the opposite side of the living room from Carly. He let out a scream and cowered behind a Louis XIV chair. The guns stopped firing. Carly, sensing her moment, jumped to her feet and bolted for the balcony.' If you still don't believe i don't care, because the ugly truth is: His assistant and body guards weren't supposed to exist in the movie, since in the earlier versions of the movie's script, which is can be read and seen in all [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|of]] [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon: The Junior Novel|it's]] [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|adaptation]] material, they don't even exist, meaning that by the time he revealed to Sam that he works for the Decepticons, Dylan is the only collaborator to still be alive. They only exist in the movie because [[Michael Bay]] wanted that way and he does whatever he wants when he's directing a blockbuster movie. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 18:53, 26 February 2021 (EST)
::::::::I feel like we're going in circles here. Don't know about you guys but I quit. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:06, 26 February 2021 (EST)