Editing Talk:Alpha Trion/Generation 1

==Images==
I think we need some better images.  Does anybody have a wider shot of A3 from FIaLTC?  And a shot of him from War Dawn?  Hey, Monzo, where are ya?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

==X-Men==
Am I the only one who thinks that Alpha Trion looks like Onslaught from The X-Men? 

Except with a beard.

And a visible face.
--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 23:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

We should add something about A3 being the first transformers and abotu A1 and A2 being failures X-BoB58

Therin lies the greatness of Wiki. You don't really need a group consensus to do that.--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 00:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

*I don't know how to add it in.

==G1?==
Should this entry have the "(G1)" tag we add to most characters, or is he considered universal, like Unicron or Primus?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:I don't see why Alpha Trion would be "universal" (multiversal?). There are versions of him in other continuities, yes, but the same is true for Optimus Prime. I think you probably have to be a god to be the same guy everywhere. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Failures?==
Is there any actual basis for the statement "A1 and A2 were failures" in the cartoon, or was X-Bob just being funny?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

It was in one of the old Comic Bom-bom issues, it was hosted at Hydra's site but now that's down.
:Who said this?  And are Comic Bom-bom issues (which I have no access to) considered canon?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

A. The Issiue in question was hosted at TFPulp wich is now down, you can ask Hydra or Buster over at the allspark for more info. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:I assume this means that you posted the bit to which I asked "Who said this?"  Thanks for the info.  However, it doesn't actually answer my main question, which is "are the Comic Bom-Bom issues considered canon?"  However, I grant that this is a bad question.  More to the point, are they considered in the ''same'' continuity as the G1 cartoon that Alpha Trion originated in?  If not, this statement should be sent to a note lower in the article, under a "Comic Bom-Bom" heading (see the Wreckers and Dreamwave Comics headings for examples).  It is appropriate to include on the Wiki, but probably should not be part of Alpha Trion's defining bio at the top of the page.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed. Especially considering how loose the J-fiction tends to play. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I would consider them cartoon-Cannon but others may not [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

::Cartoon-cannon is a dicey issues, because the japanese cartoond is brannch off later, and it had some events even before the movie (scramble city) that were noticably different.
::(Did the Ark awaken in 1985 in the Japanese cartoon?  I want to say that it did, but I don't think i have a basis to support that, it just want' released until 85 there.)-[[User:Derik|derik]]18:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:::From the defunkt TfCyberbon/TFPulp
:::This Bom-Bom continues to move into the 2010 period, with character designs of Cyclonus. There's a paragraph which describes him as holding a position similar to that of Starscream, while mentioning his personality as "having discarded his humanism in order to become a coldhearted battle machine." Interesting to see his cockpit. Then, there's an absolutely fascinating 2-page spread on the Quintessons, describing the function of each face. There's also a timeline in some sort of Seibertron years describing the Quintessons, Vector Sigma, and the first Transformers. According to this, in Seibertronian year 285, A-3 was the first robot to be successfully born via Vector Sigma, A-1 and A-2 having been failures. Then, there are a couple pages showing upcoming releases, foreign items, and some neat merchandise like phone cards. What a month!
:::[http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/art_cbb_01_87_0304.jpg Image] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
::::In absolute terms, Alpha Trion can't have been the first Transformer/Cybertronian ever created; he had no idea how to deal with the Hate Plague in ''The Return Of Optimus Prime'', which prompted Prime to journey further back. If "further back" was two stillborn guys, he wouldn't have been able to find anyone to combat that menace.

::::That arguement aside - since it's a note from a secondary source (ie nothing of the sort is mentioned in the 'toon), it should probably go in a footnote/Trivia section at the end of his profile rather than the main section, I reckon. -- [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Moustache==
20mil BC?  9mil, right?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

11, actually. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


==Sound effects?==
The instructions say he has them; we're sure he doesn't?  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 02:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
: Pretty sure he doesn't.  Mine doesn't even have the metal contact points in the battery compartment.  The electronics are stripped.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>