Editing Talk:2005 IDW continuity

== Avengers crossover? ==

It's my understanding that while this is portrayed at a specific point in both New Avengers and IDW's Transformers, it's actually in continuity for neither. So perhaps this needs to be a special note rather than sandwiched between Infiltration and Escalation.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 17:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: I know nothing about it aside from what I've been told here and there, which was just "it goes between Infiltration and Escalation."  Is this in an official source somewhere? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: It's definitely part of IDW continuity, but not Marvel continuity.  Spotlight: Ramjet spins off from one of its threads.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: I think that when it comes to this issue, we might be best to wait for Spotlight: Ramjet and see if it addresses the continuity wierdness at all. - Chris McFeely (not signed in)

== Alternate Modes list ==
Hot Rod should be added to this list, if anybody knows what he's supposed to be.  And Blitzwing and Megatron.  Astrotrain, Hardhead and Nightbeat too, I suppose, though we haven't seen them transform. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, easily. I was just lifting it from Infiltration's page, as it doesn't belong there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Megatron's entry there seems to imply that he's still a Walther P38.  I don't think that's true.  If I knew what model gun he is now, I'd've changed it myself.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Megatron's own character entry identifies his altmode as a P99:

<i>Megatron stayed to guide the second stage of the Decepticons' plans, wishing to try out his new Earth-inspired handgun (Walther P99) altmode. {{storylink|Escalation (IDW)|Escalation}}</i>

:::[[:Image:Massdisplacement.jpg|This image]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P99 some real-life references] can support this assertation, as best as I can make out the comic scan.  The details are difficult to be certain of in the final iteration of Megs in that scan, though, and many pistols have similar details.  It would have to be a pretty exact match, I think, to certainly say it's any particular gun. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== New evidence that IDW should be its own continuity family (not G1), even though it is probably way too late to change the wiki. ==

[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=143991#143991 DonFig]: "...and the thing is, I don't consider IDW's take as 'G1'. the stories are not a continuation of the ones from the 80's cartoon or the Marvel stuff. they didn't crash on earth 4 millions years ago and get lodged in a volcano, it doesn't even fit into Beast wars.

sure it's got the same names and elements from G1, but that can also be said with every other series that came and went since G1.

Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, the Movie.. All have elements of G1 in them, all have an Optimus who's a red truck and there's a Yellow car that younger people can relate to. references to Matrixes, Unicrons..etc, but they're not G1." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:46, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:That's not "evidence," that's an opinion, and not one that is related to the wiki's classification system. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:55, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Agreed. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:29, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The redesigns for the ongoing would also indicate to me that it isn't G1. Also, it may be a small point, but the differing origin for characters and gimmicks—that don't match G1 bios—would seem to indicate that it isn't G1. Scourge, Goldbug, Micromasters, Dropshot. Even Nightbeat never being a headmaster. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:33, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::The original cartoon didn't match the G1 bios! Their Shockwave wasn't a calculating betrayer, their Sludge wasn't born on Cybertron, their Galvatron wasn't the City Commander.  And it had differing origins from other continuities.  Were the Dinobots born on Earth or Cybertron?  Were the Constructions built on Earth or were they one of the other two origins also presented by the cartoon?  Were the Aerialbots brought to life by Vector Sigma or the Creation Matrix?  Was Blaster a brooding anti-hero or a hip-hop deejay?  These things you bring up in favor of IDW not being part of G1 can be applied to every other aspect of what we all agree is G1.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Are you proposing that the IDW comics are a franchise independent of the G1 franchise, Starfield? Because that's kind of silly. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:55, 16 January 2010 (EST)

==Recommended reading order==
For a long time, I've been thinking that this wiki should provide the service to our readers of untangling all the IDW-G1 mini-series, maxi-series, and stand-alones into one "recommended reading order".  I've given it quite a bit of thought, and I've come up with this: [[:User:Jackpot/Sandbox/IDW-G1 recommended reading order]]  I explain my rationales on its [[:User talk:Jackpot/Sandbox/IDW-G1 recommended reading order|talk page]].  While I admit that some subjectivity had to come into play, I have the hope that the community can either accept the list as-is or come to its own alternate consensus.  And, ultimately, I would love to see it incorporated into the navigation, maybe in a similar fashion to how we have parallel navs for the Marvel US and UK comics.  The reader really ''should'' be able to just click-click-click through the entire IDW-G1 series in a simple and linear way the way they can with almost any other.  We editors are as smart and obsessed as they come - IDW's capricious marketing schemes should be no obstacle for the likes of us. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:29, 27 July 2009 (EDT)