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{{factions|sgDecepticon|decepticon|autobot}}
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:''The Double Pretenders were to be [[Transformer]]s from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:DoublePretenders.jpg|right|upright=2|thumb|Spider monkey.]]
[[Image:DoublePretenders2.png|right|200px|thumb|]]
 
A '''Double Pretender''' is a type of [[Pretender]] that has two robots occupying one Pretender shell. The two robots are capable of [[Combiner|combining]] into one robot outside the shell.
A '''Double Pretender''' is a type of [[Pretender]] that has two robots occupying one Pretender shell. The two robots are capable of [[Combiner|combining]] into one robot outside the shell.


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==Fiction==
==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===
===Shattered Expectations===
[[Image:Shattered Starscream.jpg|left|100px|thumb|]]
[[Image:Shattered Starscream.jpg|left|100px|thumb]]
The two Double Pretender shells were among the first Pretender shells that the [[Decepticon]]s developed. {{storylink|Shattered Expectations (SG)|Shattered Expectations}}
The two Double Pretender shells were among the first Pretender shells that the [[Decepticon]]s developed. {{storylink|Shattered Expectations (SG)|Shattered Expectations}}


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===''Badlands''===
===''Badlands''===


The Pretender [[Oilmaster]] operated as a bounty hunter, tracking the Decepticon outcast known as [[Magnificus (G1)|Magnificus]]. He was defeated by [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Hawk]] when the flying Decepticon arrived to make Magnificus an offer on behalf of [[Scrash (OC)|Scrash]]. {{storylink|Badlands (issue)|Badlands}}
The Pretender [[Oilmaster]] operated as a bounty hunter, tracking the Decepticon outcast known as [[Magnificus (G1)|Magnificus]]. He was defeated by [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Hawk]] when the flying Decepticon arrived to make Magnificus an offer on behalf of [[Scrash (G1)|Scrash]]. {{storylink|Badlands (issue)|Badlands}}


{{note|Oilmaster is presented as a regular Pretender, with no obvious partner found inside his "Double Pretender" shell.}}
{{note|Oilmaster is presented as a regular Pretender, with no obvious partner found inside his "Double Pretender" shell.}}
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==Toys==
==Toys==
===Unreleased===
===Unreleased===
[[Image:DoublePretenders.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
[[Image:DoublePretenders2.png|right|thumb]]
[[Hasbro]] at one point had plans to release a Pretender subgroup consisting of a combiner pair inside one shell. There are two prototype shells known to exist, one of a spider creature and the other of an armored gorilla. Whether the Transformers that were to go in them were ever given prototypes is unknown, and any artwork on them has yet to surface. The two shells, meanwhile, each have been spotted in two color schemes. The spider creature has a black and a brown deco, and the armored gorilla a brown and a grey deco. The black spider creature and grey armored gorilla were first and last seen at a display at [[BotCon 1996]].
[[Hasbro]] at one point had plans to release a Pretender subgroup consisting of a combiner pair inside one shell. Whether artwork was produced and whether the inner robots for the shells were given prototypes is unknown, but the two prototype shells have been spotted in two color schemes each. The four-armed spider creature has been seen in a black-and-grey deco as well as a predominantly brown deco. One version of the armored gorilla is grey with red armor, and the other is brown with black armor. The black spider creature and grey armored gorilla were first and last seen at a display at [[BotCon 1996]].


The shells are of the same size as the 1989 normal Pretenders. Unlike most other Pretenders, it seems the Double Pretenders were to be opened at the back to insert or remove the inner robots, rather than down the middle.
The shells are of the same size as the 1989 normal Pretenders. Unlike most other Pretenders, it seems the Double Pretenders were to be opened at the back to insert or remove the inner robots, rather than down the middle.
{{canceledtoy}}
{{canceledtoy}}


===Timelines===
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[[File:BotCon2015-Oilmaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Haven't you always wanted a monkey?]]
===''Timelines''===
[[File:TL-toy Oilmaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Haven't you always wanted a monkey?]]
*'''Cybertron's Most Wanted''' ([[BotCon 2015]] box set)
*'''Cybertron's Most Wanted''' ([[BotCon 2015]] box set)
:''Accessories: gun, sword, friggin' Pretender shell''
:''Accessories'': gun, sword, friggin' Pretender shell
 
: Oilmaster is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling30|Swerve]] and [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]], which fit together into a newly-sculpted Pretender shell designed by [[Boss Fight Studio]] after the original unreleased Oilmaster toy. The Swerve redeco is colored to resemble Oilmaster's inner robot from "[[Badlands (issue)|Badlands]]". The shell has shoulder and neck rotational joints (the neck being a first for Pretender shells), [[5 mm post]]-holes in its wrists, plus two 5 mm holes on its back for weapon storage. Unlike most Pretenders, the shell does not split in half to store the inner robots: instead the backpack swings up on a hinge for access to the inner cavity, with the truck slotting into the backpack-part proper, and the jet pegging into a post-hole inside the body.


Oilmaster is a redeco of [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'']] Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] and [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]] which fit into a newly-sculpted Pretender shell designed by [[Boss Fight Studio]] after the original unreleased Oilmaster toy, with the Swerve redeco colored in homage to Oilmaster's inner robot from [[Badlands (issue)|Badlands]]. The shell has shoulder and neck rotational joints, 5mm pegholes in its wrists, plus two 5mm pegholes on its back for storage. 
: His shell weapons are from ''[[Construct-Bots]]'' sets, notably [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots|Optimus Prime's]] sword and [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots|Megatron's]] blaster rifle.


Oilmaster comes with [[Battletrap]], [[Packrat]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], and [[Stepper (SG)|Stepper]].
: Oilmaster was available [[exclusive]]ly in the [[BotCon 2015]] five-figure box set, packaged with [[Battletrap (G1)#Timelines|Battletrap]], [[Packrat#Timelines|Packrat]], [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#Timelines|Megatron]], and [[Stepper (SG)#Toys|Stepper]].
 
:The shell was redecoed for [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|TFSS]] 5.0 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#DoublePretender|Optimus Prime]] (see below). The inner robot mold was also used to make TFSS 5.0 [[Quickslinger (G1)#Generations|Quickslinger]] and [[Hi-Q#Combiner Wars|Hi-Q]]. It also served as the basis of the non-toy ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' incarnation of [[Swerve (SG)|Swerve]].
 
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Decepticon/BCOilmaster/oilmaster.htm More information on ''Timelines'' Oilmaster at TFU.info]''
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[[File:TFSS-5.0-Double-Pretender-Optimus-Prime.jpg|300px|thumb|]]
===''Combiner Wars''===
[[File:TFSS-5.0-Double-Pretender-Optimus-Prime.jpg|300px|thumb]]
*'''Double Pretender Optimus Prime''' (2017)'''  
*'''Double Pretender Optimus Prime''' (2017)'''  
**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Pretender Shell Gun, Blaster
**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Pretender Shell Gun, Blaster


:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Optimus_Prime_(G1)|Optimus Prime]] is a [[redeco]]/[[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling30|Swerve]], with a new head and a ''Generation 2''-inspired deco for his pickup truck mode. He reuses the blaster from his Legends Class figure while the shell's ion cannon is recolored from the one included with ''Generations'' Orion Pax.
:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Double Pretender [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender|Optimus Prime]] is a [[redeco]]/[[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling 30|Swerve]], with a new head and a ''Generation 2''-inspired deco for his pickup truck mode. He reuses the blaster from his Legends Class figure while the shell's ion cannon is recolored from the one included with ''Generations'' Orion Pax.


:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]])  and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.
:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]])  and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.


:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender|Double Pretender Megatron]].
:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Megatron (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender|Double Pretender Megatron]].
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**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp
**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp


:Released as a part of the [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service#5.0 (2016)|Figure Subscription Service 5.0]], [[Megatron_(G1)|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[#CombatHero|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed laser cannon that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and voyager Optimus Prime's sword.
:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.
 
:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].


:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:
:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:
::1. [https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749521190801409 Fiddle the Megatron figure into a different position, and insert the joint piece on his chest to allow Spacewarp to attach on it].
::1. Fiddle the Megatron figure into a different position, and insert the joint piece on his chest to allow Spacewarp to attach on it.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=How it all fits: https://t.co/pFFmXwkzpl|link=https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749521190801409|name=Jesse Wittenrich|site=Twitter|year=2017|month=04|day=28|(defunct=)}}</ref>
::2. If the joint piece doesn't work due to its tolerance, [https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749905867251712 rearrange Megatron in a slightly different position, and peg Spacewarp into Megatron's arm.]
::2. If the joint piece doesn't work due to its tolerance, rearrange Megatron in a slightly different position, and peg Spacewarp into Megatron's arm.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=If that doesn't work for you, you can skip the accessory and peg Spacewarp to Megatron's arm. https://t.co/aogfRbvhfD|link=https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749905867251712|name=Jesse Wittenrich|site=Twitter|year=2017|month=04|day=28|(defunct=)}}</ref>
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==Notes==
==Notes==
* In an interview, [[Vinnie D'Alleva]] referred to these Pretenders as the "Monster Pretenders". Whether that was actually supposed to be their name or if D'Alleva got them confused with the [[Pretender Monster|other Pretender combiner group]] is not clear.
* In an interview, [[Vincent D'Alleva|Vinnie D'Alleva]] referred to these Pretenders as the "Monster Pretenders". Whether that was actually supposed to be their name or if D'Alleva got them confused with the [[Pretender Monster|other Pretender combiner group]] is not clear.
* Speaking of that other group, there's a number of similarities between the Pretender Monsters and the Double Pretenders that makes it seem the concept of the Double Pretenders was turned into the Pretender Monsters. Both groups have combiners as the inner robots, have monsters as shells and split open at the back.
* A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to [[Groundbreaker]]'s was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.
 
==References==
{{reflist}}


==External links==
==External links==
* [http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html BotCon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p2
* [http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html BotCon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p2
* [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/PretendersDoubleBC96Displ.html Double Pretenders at Toyarchive.com]
* [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/PretendersDoubleBC96Displ.html Double Pretenders at Toyarchive.com, including the prototype Groundbreaker]
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/108035-new-botcon-96-photos.html New BotCon 96 Photos at TFW2005.com]
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/108035-new-botcon-96-photos.html New BotCon 96 Photos at TFW2005.com]



Latest revision as of 04:54, 3 July 2025

Spider monkey.

A Double Pretender is a type of Pretender that has two robots occupying one Pretender shell. The two robots are capable of combining into one robot outside the shell.

Fiction

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Shattered Expectations

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The two Double Pretender shells were among the first Pretender shells that the Decepticons developed. Shattered Expectations


Badlands

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The Pretender Oilmaster operated as a bounty hunter, tracking the Decepticon outcast known as Magnificus. He was defeated by Hawk when the flying Decepticon arrived to make Magnificus an offer on behalf of Scrash. Badlands

Oilmaster is presented as a regular Pretender, with no obvious partner found inside his "Double Pretender" shell.

TransTech

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The Transcendent Technomorphs had never encountered a double pretender prior to Oilmaster. This led to some trouble for the Decepticon when he was jailed, but only two of his three components were fitted with restrainers. This caused him to act "twitchy." He was nonetheless able to help repel the Waruder invader, alongside a group of other wanted criminals, when the situation arose. Cybertron's Most Wanted

Toys

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Unreleased

[edit]

Hasbro at one point had plans to release a Pretender subgroup consisting of a combiner pair inside one shell. Whether artwork was produced and whether the inner robots for the shells were given prototypes is unknown, but the two prototype shells have been spotted in two color schemes each. The four-armed spider creature has been seen in a black-and-grey deco as well as a predominantly brown deco. One version of the armored gorilla is grey with red armor, and the other is brown with black armor. The black spider creature and grey armored gorilla were first and last seen at a display at BotCon 1996.

The shells are of the same size as the 1989 normal Pretenders. Unlike most other Pretenders, it seems the Double Pretenders were to be opened at the back to insert or remove the inner robots, rather than down the middle.

Your bargaining posture is highly dubious.
Your bargaining posture is highly dubious.

Proceed on your way to oblivion.
This item has been canceled, with no current plans for release.


Timelines

[edit]
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
Accessories: gun, sword, friggin' Pretender shell
Oilmaster is a redeco of Generations Legends Class Swerve and Flanker, which fit together into a newly-sculpted Pretender shell designed by Boss Fight Studio after the original unreleased Oilmaster toy. The Swerve redeco is colored to resemble Oilmaster's inner robot from "Badlands". The shell has shoulder and neck rotational joints (the neck being a first for Pretender shells), 5 mm post-holes in its wrists, plus two 5 mm holes on its back for weapon storage. Unlike most Pretenders, the shell does not split in half to store the inner robots: instead the backpack swings up on a hinge for access to the inner cavity, with the truck slotting into the backpack-part proper, and the jet pegging into a post-hole inside the body.
His shell weapons are from Construct-Bots sets, notably Optimus Prime's sword and Megatron's blaster rifle.
Oilmaster was available exclusively in the BotCon 2015 five-figure box set, packaged with Battletrap, Packrat, Megatron, and Stepper.
The shell was redecoed for TFSS 5.0 Optimus Prime (see below). The inner robot mold was also used to make TFSS 5.0 Quickslinger and Hi-Q. It also served as the basis of the non-toy Shattered Glass incarnation of Swerve.


Combiner Wars

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  • Double Pretender Optimus Prime (2017)
    • Accessories: Pretender Shell, Pretender Shell Gun, Blaster
Combiner Wars Double Pretender Optimus Prime is a redeco/retool of Generations Legends Class Swerve, with a new head and a Generation 2-inspired deco for his pickup truck mode. He reuses the blaster from his Legends Class figure while the shell's ion cannon is recolored from the one included with Generations Orion Pax.
He also comes with Hi-Q (a redeco of Flanker) and a Pretender shell redecoed from Oilmaster's, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.
This figure was only available through Fun Publications' Subscription Service 5.0 and shipped together with Double Pretender Megatron.


  • Double Pretender Megatron (2017)
    • Accessories: Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, Spacewarp Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp
Combiner Wars Double Pretender Megatron is a redeco of his Legends Class toy, with his coloration based on his canceled Generation 2 "arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy. He also comes with Spacewarp (a redeco of Generations Payload) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from Grand Maximus's. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed laser cannon that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of Titans Return Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.
This figure was only available through Fun Publications' Subscription Service 5.0 and shipped together with Double Pretender Optimus Prime.
There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:
1. Fiddle the Megatron figure into a different position, and insert the joint piece on his chest to allow Spacewarp to attach on it.[1]
2. If the joint piece doesn't work due to its tolerance, rearrange Megatron in a slightly different position, and peg Spacewarp into Megatron's arm.[2]


Notes

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  • In an interview, Vinnie D'Alleva referred to these Pretenders as the "Monster Pretenders". Whether that was actually supposed to be their name or if D'Alleva got them confused with the other Pretender combiner group is not clear.
  • A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to Groundbreaker's was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.

References

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  1. "How it all fits: https://t.co/pFFmXwkzpl"—Jesse Wittenrich, Twitter, 2017/04/28
  2. "If that doesn't work for you, you can skip the accessory and peg Spacewarp to Megatron's arm. https://t.co/aogfRbvhfD"—Jesse Wittenrich, Twitter, 2017/04/28
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