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[[File:CybertronBW Transwarp.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.]]
A '''star system''' (also referred to as '''planetary system''', '''solar system''', or '''stellar system''') is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more planets and various other cosmic detritus.


[[Image:CybertronBW Transwarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.]]
Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a [[space bridge]].
A '''solar system''' (more properly, '''star system''' or '''stellar system''') is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more [[Planet|planets]] and various other cosmic detritus. 
 
Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a [[Space bridge|space bridge]].


==Fiction==
==Fiction==
Notable solar systems in Transformers fiction include:
Notable star systems in Transformers fiction include:
 
*The [[Solar System]], dominated by the [[Sun]], appears in almost every Transformers story.
[[Image:GodGambit Saturn.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
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* The [[Solar System]], dominated by the [[Sun]], appears in almost every Transformers story. Its known orbital bodies include:
** [[Mercury]]
** [[Venus (planet)|Venus]]
** [[Earth]], and its moon, [[Moon (moon)|"The Moon"]].
** [[Mars]]
** Various asteroids, including [[Ceres]] (technically a dwarf planet), [[Juno]], and [[Pallas]]<ref>[[Duel on the Asteroid]]</ref>
** [[Jupiter]], and its moon [[Io]]
** [[Saturn]], and its moon [[Titan]]
** Uranus and Neptune <ref>Featured, but not named in [[The Probe]].</ref>
** [[Pluto]]
 
===Marvel Comics===
* The [[Alpha Centauri]] system was the home system of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], before it was knocked out of orbit.
* The Rigel system, including the planet [[Rigel III]].
* An unnamed system where the [[Matrix Quest]] took place, home to the following planets:
** [[Cheyne]]
** [[Pz-Zazz]]
** [[Pequod]]
** [[Cameron]], and its barren moon [[VsQs]]


===''Beast Wars'' cartoon===
===Generation 1===
[[Image:CybertronBW SolarSystem.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
*The [[Alpha Centauri]] system was the home system of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in [[Marvel Comics continuity]], before it was knocked out of orbit.
* An unnamed system containing the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Cybertron's irregular orbit, seen in "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", indicates that it may have been moved into this solar system artificially.
*The [[Ardurian System]], home to [[Arduria]].
*The [[Hadean System|Cybertronian System]], home to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].
*The [[Eigerson-48 System]], home to [[Mumu-Obscura]].
*The [[Elba System]], home to [[Elba]] and the location of the infamous [[Garrus-9]].
*[[Epsilon Ariadne]], where [[Dirk Manus]] hails from.
*The [[Hunfi system]], home to [[Hydrus Four]], at least in the [[universal stream]] [[Primax 1291.0 Zeta]].
*The [[MQ System]], home to several planets.
*The [[Nalva System]], home to [[Arcadroid]]s.
*The [[Klovian System]], home to [[Nebulos]].
*The [[Kol System]], home to [[Varas Centralus]], [[Varas Extrinsecus]] and [[Clemency]].
*The [[Lenocinium Velnero System]], home to [[LV-117]] and [[LV-118]].
*The [[Paradius system]], which is named after its one star [[Paradius]]. It is home to various populated planets, the only one which name is known being [[Zel Samine]].
*The [[Rigel|Rigel System]], home to [[Rigel III]], [[Rigel IV]], [[Rigel 6]] and [[Rigel VII]].
*The [[Salvvatan System]], home to [[Salvvatan VI]] and [[Salvvatan VIII]].
*The [[Styrakon System]], home to Hydrus Four when it's not in the Hunfi system.


===IDW Comics===
====Beast Era====
* The Lambda Scorpii system, also home to the planet Cybertron.
[[File:CybertronBW SolarSystem.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb]]
* The [[Kol]] system, home to the planet [[Varas Centralus]].
*An unnamed system containing the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Cybertron's irregular orbit, seen in "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", indicates that it may have been moved into this star system artificially.
* The [[Eigerson-48]] system, home to the planet [[Mumu-Obscura]].
*The clustered planetary system [[Georgian]].
*The [[Vurau System]].
*The [[Yurina System]], home to [[Solid]].


===''Transformers'' (2007)===
===''Transformers'' (2007)===
* The [[Charii system]]
*The [[Charii system]].


==Those poor, confused writers==
===''Animated''===
A star system should not be confused with a ''galaxy'', which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems. A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own [[Milky Way]] Galaxy containing several hundred ''billion'' stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.
*The [[Archa system]], home to [[Archa Seven]].
*The [[Gpii System]], where one can find [[Trobulum]].
*The [[Hadean System]], home to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].
*The [[Quartex system]], home to [[Quartex (planet)|Quartex]].


Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not ''inconceivable'' that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best ([[Star Wars|a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures]]) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere.  Cartoon animation, for example, almost ''never'' supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.
===''Prime''===
*The [[Dromedon System]].
*[[Theta Scorpii]], a hazardous system where [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] hid the [[AllSpark]].


Notable examples of galaxy/solar system confusion include:
===''Cyberverse''===
*[[Sky-Byte (Cyberverse)|Sky-Byte]] and [[Jetfire (Cyberverse)|Jetfire]]'s conflict destroyed countless star systems before they arrived on Earth. The names of the destroyed star systems are unknown.


* [[Countdown (G1)|Countdown]]'s [[Bio|bio]], which says his [[Rocket Base|rocket base]] can use gravity to "slingshot across entire galaxies in seconds".
==Those poor, confused writers==
 
===Galaxy ≠ star system===
* "[[The Test (issue)|The Test]]", wherein [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] is delighted to find [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] "just inside our galaxy", as if that meant it was nearby.
A star system should not be confused with a ''galaxy'', which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems. A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own [[Milky Way]] Galaxy containing several hundred ''billion'' stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.
 
* "[[Primal Fear!]]", in which the [[Decepticon]] [[Warworld]] is said to be operating in "another galaxy".
 
* The ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' episode "[[The Return of Demolishor]]" features [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] narrating, "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system."  The dialogue is less confused in the original ''Superlink'' version, and may be more of a dubbing artifact than pure authorial error ("''from'' the outer reaches of the solar system", or switching the two terms around, would both make a lot more sense.)
 
* [[Movie Prequel issue 2|''Prime Directives'' issue 2]], as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] describes searching "countless solar spans, through myriad galaxies, nebulae and systems".
 
* ''[[Transformers: Beginnings]]'': In a voiceover monologue not taken from the [[Movie Prequel issue 2|comic version]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] announces his arrival in the [[Milky Way]] galaxy, despite [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] opening narration for the [[Transformers (2007)|movie]], where he stated that the [[Autobot|Autobots]] "scattered across the galaxy", thus implying that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is located ''within'' the Milky Way galaxy.
 
* [[The Reign of Starscream Issue Number One|''The Reign of Starscream'' issue 1]]: Despite Optimus Prime's aforementioned opening narration for the movie, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] claims in this issue that the [[All Spark]]'s journey ends "galaxies away" when it arrives on [[Earth]]. ([[The Reign of Starscream issue 5|Issue 5]] later corrects this.)
 
[[Image:G1 Cybertron's galaxy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|[http://lyricwiki.org/Monty_Python:Galaxy_Song Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at nine hundred miles an hour...]]]
 
Remarkably, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy.  The episode "[[Roll For It]]" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."


===Galaxy ≠ Universe===
Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. (Note that this is [[tvtropes:Main/SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale|hardly a phenomenon limited to ''Transformers'' writers]].) Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not ''inconceivable'' that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best ([[Star Wars (franchise)|a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures]]) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere. Cartoon animation, for example, almost ''never'' supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.
On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes ''millions of galaxies'', each containing ''billions of stars'', the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:


* In "[[Changing Gears]]", it's stated that the exploding [[Sun]] could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.
Notable examples of galaxy/star system confusion include:


* In "[[The Return of Demolishor]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] says that by using the [[Energon grid|energon grid]], they "run the risk of destroying the entire universe". Though the characters ''are'' in [[Alpha Q's universe|a new, fledgling universe]] where this might make some slight amount of sense, the line is in fact a dubbing error.
*[[Countdown (G1)|Generation 1 Countdown]]'s [[bio]], which says his [[Rocket Base|rocket base]] can use gravity to "slingshot across entire galaxies in seconds".
*"[[The Test (issue)|The Test]]", wherein [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] is delighted to find [[energon]] "just inside our galaxy", as if that meant it was nearby.
*"[[Primal Fear!]]", in which the [[Decepticon]] [[Warworld]] is said to be operating in "another galaxy".
*The ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' episode "[[The Return of Demolishor]]" features [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] narrating, "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the Solar System." The dialogue is less confused in the original ''Superlink'' version, and may be more of a dubbing artifact than pure authorial error ("''from'' the outer reaches of the Solar System", or switching the two terms around, would both make a lot more sense.)
*[[Movie Prequel issue 2|''Movie Prequel'' #2]], as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] describes searching "countless solar spans, through myriad galaxies, nebulae and systems".
*''[[Transformers: Beginnings (Movie)|Transformers: Beginnings]]'': In a voiceover monologue not taken from the [[Movie Prequel issue 2|comic version]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] announces his arrival in the [[Milky Way]] galaxy, despite [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] opening narration for the [[Transformers (film)|movie]], where he stated that the [[Autobot]]s "scattered across the galaxy", thus implying that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is located ''within'' the Milky Way galaxy.
*[[The Reign of Starscream issue 1|''The Reign of Starscream'' #1]]: Despite Optimus Prime's aforementioned opening narration for the movie, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] claims in this issue that the [[AllSpark]]'s journey ends "galaxies away" when it arrives on [[Earth]]. ([[The Reign of Starscream issue 5|Issue #5]] later corrects this.)


* Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]" — "I ''will'' rule the universe, even if I am the only one ''left'' in the universe!" That's a ''lot'' of conquering to do there, buddy!
[[File:G1 Cybertron's galaxy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|[http://lyricwiki.org/Monty_Python:Galaxy_Song Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at nine hundred miles an hour...]]]
Remarkably, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy. The episode "[[Roll for It]]" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."


==References==
===Galaxy ≠ universe===
<references />
On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes ''billions of galaxies'', each containing ''billions of stars'', the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:


*In "[[Changing Gears]]", it's stated that the exploding [[Sun]] could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.
*In "[[The Return of Demolishor]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] says that by using the [[energon grid (technology)|energon grid]], they "run the risk of destroying the entire universe". Though the characters ''are'' in [[Alpha Q's universe|a new, fledgling universe]] where this might make some slight amount of sense, the line is in fact a dubbing error.
*Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] in "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]"—"I ''will'' rule the universe, even if I am the only one ''left'' in the universe!" That's a ''lot'' of conquering to do there, buddy!


==Notes==
*In [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=705 an interview], [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the [[2005 IDW continuity]] version of Cybertron orbited the "star" {{w|Lambda Scorpii|Shaula}}. This piece of information has not made it into any media, and the system is only referred to as the "Cybertronian System" in "[[Syndromica (1)]]".


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Latest revision as of 04:08, 31 May 2025

"Solar system" redirects here. For the actual Solar-related system, see Solar System.
To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.

A star system (also referred to as planetary system, solar system, or stellar system) is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more planets and various other cosmic detritus.

Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a space bridge.

Fiction

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Notable star systems in Transformers fiction include:

  • The Solar System, dominated by the Sun, appears in almost every Transformers story.

Generation 1

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Beast Era

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Transformers (2007)

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Animated

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Prime

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Cyberverse

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  • Sky-Byte and Jetfire's conflict destroyed countless star systems before they arrived on Earth. The names of the destroyed star systems are unknown.

Those poor, confused writers

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Galaxy ≠ star system

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A star system should not be confused with a galaxy, which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems. A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own Milky Way Galaxy containing several hundred billion stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.

Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. (Note that this is hardly a phenomenon limited to Transformers writers.) Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not inconceivable that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best (a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere. Cartoon animation, for example, almost never supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.

Notable examples of galaxy/star system confusion include:

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at nine hundred miles an hour...

Remarkably, the Generation 1 cartoon series seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy. The episode "Roll for It" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."

Galaxy ≠ universe

[edit]

On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes billions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars, the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:

  • In "Changing Gears", it's stated that the exploding Sun could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.
  • In "The Return of Demolishor", Optimus Prime says that by using the energon grid, they "run the risk of destroying the entire universe". Though the characters are in a new, fledgling universe where this might make some slight amount of sense, the line is in fact a dubbing error.
  • Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as Starscream in "The Revenge of Bruticus"—"I will rule the universe, even if I am the only one left in the universe!" That's a lot of conquering to do there, buddy!

Notes

[edit]