Talk:Flying Mind

I found a different description for the episode that is pretty much the same except it says the Nemesis becomes sentient. Shouldn't the description be changed on here?

Nemesis or Trypticon?

So is the speaking thing supposed to be Trypticon, or the Nemesis's computer? -- SFH 23:43, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

It's left open to interpretation. The intelligence is not named or explained in any way, and is credited as "Warship". --abates 00:12, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

The wiki seems to be assuming it is Trypticon, going by the Trypticon (Prime) page... should we be? 118.93.48.54 22:36, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

My thoughts exactly. We do not have any confirmation that the Nemesis IS Trypticon. And it still remains fairly ambiguous whether Exiles is to be taken into account or not. Rayqui 03:18, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

Agreed. The Warship hasn't even been named on the show, so who knows if it is in fact "The Nemesis", yet alone Trypticon. I don't think 'EXODUS' or 'EXILES' should be viewed as the Prime 'bible', as TF novels are notorious for being ignored by other media. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.118.37.154 (talk • contribs){{#if:23:06, 30 April 2012 (EDT)| 23:06, 30 April 2012 (EDT)|}}.

One: sign your posts. Two: get your facts right. The Nemesis HAS been named before. -- Spydersix 23:14, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

But the Nemesis has never been named "Trypticon", or even alluded to, in TF Prime. The merge was really too hasty. Rayqui 08:33, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

I stand corrected Spydersix, I just rewatched "Shadowzone" and Optimus actually calls the ship "The Nemesis" when wondering where the kids were 'ground bridged'. my bad.--Riptor One 21:28, 4 May 2012 (EDT)

Can further discussion of the issue please be held on Talk:Trypticon (WFC) since that's the article it concerns? --abates 16:34, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Voice actor

Who voices the Nemesis anyway?71.255.166.246 23:54, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

Kevin Michael Richardson. --abates 00:12, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Soundwave

Soundwave also shows signs of sentience, since the beginning he has only showed his opposition to Airachnid's command back in Orion Pax. Now, when Trypticon ( or the Nemesis ) gave Megs a headache just like Unicron did, and Megatron said to regain control of the vessel, Soundwave acts weirdly, he tries to set things back quickly, as opposed to everything he has done before, he does everything smoothly and without any hurrying. Does this need to be pointed ? --User:SnipinScientist , 29 April 2012

Uh, when was it ever claimed that Soundwave is non-sentient? --abates 18:32, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Seems to me Soundwave showed sentience back in Masters and Students when he sent his deployer to observe Starscream "rescue" Megatron rather than just blindly following Starscream's orders to observe Skyquake terminate Prime. And again in Sick Mind when he basically orders Starscream and Knockout to reattach Megatron's life support after Arcee shot it off. Oh and going bak to Darkness Rising Part 5 he chooses to deliberately cut the ground line with the axe, clearly knowing that by doing so no one can change the direction the radio dish is locked onto. Soundwave doesn't speak, that's not failing to show signs of sentience. Oh and it was One Shall Rise Part 3, not any part of Orion Pax, where Soundwave opposed Airachnid's attempted takeover. -annonymous 5/4/2012 8:53 AM EST

Dark Energon

Since Unicron has been killed, neutralised to vapor, whatever, shouldn't Dark Energon be useless ? And Why did they stop searching for other deposits and using it ? --User:SnipinScientist , 29 April 2012

Why would Dark Energon be useless if Unicron is dead? There's no evidence it requires his will to revive the dead. --abates 18:34, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

We don't know for certain if Unicron is dead or not, only that Prime may have succeeded in extinguishing his spark. However, Energon is supposed to come from Primus and according to what's revealed in One Shall Rise Primus became one with the Core of Cybertron. Cybertron's supposed to be a dead planet. If Cybertron is dead, then wouldn't Primus be dead? If Primus is dead, then shouldn't energon be useless if dark energon becomes useless if Unicron is dead?

WTC

Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but should it be noted that this is the first time the World Trade Center has been seen in a Transformers cartoon since 9/11? -- Spydersix 21:09, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Does the WTC actually appear? I don't see it in the shot of Manhattan at the end. --abates 22:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Look carefully at the last shot, it's over on the left side. It's the tower under construction that comes from under a cloud. -- Spydersix 22:54, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

It's also in the first half a second of the Tunnel Vision promo. -- Spydersix 22:59, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

So are we noting it? -- Spydersix 18:33, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

If it can be proven with a screenshot.--Carrion 16:47, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Why is this something that absolutely needs to be noted? —Interrobang 17:03, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Carrion- Here it is.

Interrobang- other people seem to think its worthy to note, so..... -- Spydersix 17:07, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

I'm finding myself agreeing with Interrobang. There really is no reason to make a big deal out of this. --Khajidha 17:09, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

It woulda been notable if they'd accidentally used a shot with the old WTC in. The new one, probably not. --abates 17:23, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Okay. I'll still put in the picture, without the circle, just because the article needs images. -- Spydersix 17:30, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Regardless, those black bars shouldn't be there in the final image. --ItsWalky 17:32, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

A contextless picture of Manhattan isn't an useful image for an episode's page. —Interrobang 17:50, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Pictures

Ok, so I added some pictures. They need captions, since I have a horrible sense of humor and any I put in will probably be deleted immediately. Also, I would have uploaded a picture of the Nemesis, but I could not find a shot of it without the Hub logo on it. -- Spydersix 17:57, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

question on error section

doesn't his eyes turn purple when he is using dark energon? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 156.33.195.254 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

That's what I thought, too. Although he always has dark energon in him (I think), infusing the Nemesis with it might have turned his eyes purple. -- Spyder 21:53, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

I think you're right Spydersix about it always being in him. Also, does it seem that whenever he gets around dark energon now his eyes turn purple and his insignia glows? Or whenever he intends to use it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.64.5.105 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

That's what I mean (And remember to sign your posts :p). -- Spyder 22:19, 4 May 2012 (EDT)

Insecticons sticking to ceilings in Stasis?

Okay since we obviously know next to nothing about Insecticons, muchless on how gravity or simple physics would affect them in Stasis, but I wanted to voice the strange occurnace on here before I edit anything.

So apparently ol' "Nemmy" zaps every 'Con on its ship into 'Stone-cold' Stasis. Everyone is frozen in place... including the Insecticon crawling on the ceiling... And yet, he doesn't fall to the ground when frozen. Now i'm willing to give this a wide mirth and say "Well it is based off an 'Insect,' and some insects can stick to walls..." but the reality is simple physics would dictate that once removed from physical consciousness, they'd fall to the ground. Am I right? Or does Stasis Lock literally "Freeze" them anywhere, physics or no?

My second point is the example with Megatron. Megatron was stuck in stasis holding the lever to control the "Energon Dumping Unit," but when knocked unbalanced, he didn't stay frozen. Gravity took over and made him fall to the ground. So therefore, wouldn't it have been the same for said Insecticon? Or are they just that badass? Arcee-Cola 19:48, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

Film reference?

Does 'On your feet, Soldier,' really count as a Terminator reference? It seems a pretty straightforward phrase to me. I've heard it elsewhere, too. --MissRatbat 08:08, 17 May 2012 (EDT)