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'''GEEWUN''' is a snarky [[fandom|fan]] term for people who seem to have knee-jerk negative reactions to, and continuing difficulty in tolerating any of the post-[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] (aka "G1") incarnations of the [[Transformers brand|Transformers property]] (keeping in mind that for some, "post-G1" means "anything after 1985"). Although by no means universal, a few GEEWUNNERS also tend to enjoy ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'', the only true (Western) sequel series to their beloved original series.
[[File:Prowllittlemen.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.5|Prowl expresses his feelings on those [https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/geetwo damn G2 gimmick toys].]]
'''GEEWUN''' is a snarky [[fandom|fan]] term for people who seem to have knee-jerk negative reactions to, and continuing difficulty in tolerating any of the post-[[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]] (aka "G1") incarnations of the [[Transformers brand|Transformers property]] (keeping in mind that for some, "post-G1" means "anything after 1985").


The earliest recorded use of the term "Geewun" (spelled as a normal word, not in all caps) originated with a [http://www.tfarchive.com TFArchive.com] user named Cliffjumper, who first used it in January of 2003.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20090414115018/http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?t=13192 First known usage of the term on the TFArchive boards on January 2003]</ref> Since he has a tendency of coming up with mocking puns based on existing names and fandom terms, it's possible that he did indeed coin the term. The term didn't see widespread use until 2004, when it was apparently spread to other parts of the fandom (including [[alt.toys.transformers]]) by [[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]], himself a regular member of TF Archive. [[Mark Bristow]] (aka "Bodycount") presumably also helped popularize the term.
==History==
The earliest recorded use of the term "Geewun" (spelled as a normal word, not in all caps) originated with a [http://www.tfarchive.com TFArchive.com] user named Cliffjumper, who first used it in January 2003.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20090414115018/http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?t=13192 First known usage of the term on the TFArchive boards on January 2003]</ref> Since he has a tendency of coming up with mocking puns based on existing names and fandom terms, it's possible that he did indeed coin the term. The term didn't see widespread use until 2004, when it was apparently spread to other parts of the fandom (including [[alt.toys.transformers]]) by [[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]], himself a regular member of TF Archive. [[Mark Bristow]] (aka "Bodycount") presumably also helped popularize the term.


While the phenomenon of placing Generation 1 above everything else is [[Trukk not munky|nothing new]], when the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]] was in production, the [[fandom]] experienced an ongoing influx of mindlessly angry "Generation X" members who seemed to regard ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' not as a still-evolving cultural institution and [[To sell toys|business property]], but as a sacred relic of their halcyon, Reagan-era childhoods. These bitter young people made their voices heard by preemptively denouncing the movie... not because it would [[Ruined FOREVER|ruin Transformers forever]], but because it would [[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|"rape their childhoods"]] by deviating from their rose-colored—and often [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers| incorrect]]—memories of the first two seasons of the original cartoon. The singularly unfortunate phrase "[so-and-so] RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!!!" quickly became one of the more memorable used by this group, and used in criticism by this group's detractors, in which it seems to have taken on a life of its own and overtaken the original usage... so it goes.
==Later usage==
While the phenomenon of placing Generation 1 above everything else is [[Trukk not munky|nothing new]], when the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]] was in production, the [[fandom]] experienced an ongoing influx of mindlessly angry "Generation X" members who seemed to regard ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' not as a still-evolving cultural institution and [[To sell toys|business property]], but as a sacred relic of their halcyon, Reagan-era childhoods. These bitter young people made their voices heard by preemptively denouncing the movie because it would [[Ruined FOREVER|ruin Transformers forever]]. GEEWUNners have most often been stereotyped as hating the [[live-action film series]] and treating it like the ultimate heresy against humanity; however, this has gone away over time after the movies started falling more and more out of favor with the general public too, and with the release of ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'', which was able to win over many of the previous naysayers (GEEWUNNER or otherwise).


For some reason, many GEEWUNNERS were particularly incensed by the fact that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (the truck guy, not the tape guy) had flames painted on him, a detail that [[Michael Bay]] claims to have received death threats over. It probably would have been okay if the flames were [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|burning down some forests]], though.
For some reason, many GEEWUNNERS were particularly incensed by the fact that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (the truck guy, not the tape guy) had flames painted on him, a detail that [[Michael Bay]] claims to have received death threats over. It probably would have been okay if the flames were [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|burning down some forests]], though.


==Misconceptions==
The term is ''not'' intended as a catch-all nickname for ''anybody'' who likes Generation 1, only those who refuse to accept anything other than it (or at least how ''they'' remember it, correctly or not). It is, alas, often used in this way by those who do ''not'' like Generation 1 and are seeking to insult those who do. Additionally, "Geewunners" themselves sometimes trot the term around as evidence of "persecution", in the process misconstruing the term to make it appear worse (i.e., claiming that people that use the term hate Generation 1 and everyone who likes it).
The term is ''not'' intended as a catch-all nickname for ''anybody'' who likes Generation 1, only those who refuse to accept anything other than it (or at least how ''they'' remember it, correctly or not). It is, alas, often used in this way by those who do ''not'' like Generation 1 and are seeking to insult those who do. Additionally, "Geewunners" themselves sometimes trot the term around as evidence of "persecution", in the process misconstruing the term to make it appear worse (i.e., claiming that people that use the term hate Generation 1 and everyone who likes it).


Much like how [[Ruined FOREVER]] spread to [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER other] fandoms, the ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'' fandom uses the term "Genwunner" to describe fans who only like the original set of games (and occasionally ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', the first pair of sequels). In fact, the similarities don't end there:
==External spread==
* Genwunners hold ''Red'' and ''Blue'' in the highest regard despite having features overshadowed by later incarnations/games (be it a shallow storyline or [[animation error|off-model graphics and glitches]]).
Much like how [[Ruined FOREVER]] spread to [https://web.archive.org/web/20191231064410/https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER other] [[Star Wars (franchise)|fandoms]], the ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'' fandom uses the term "GE'''N'''WUN" to describe fans who only like the original set of games (commonly known by them as [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_I Generation I] or "Gen 1" but not as "G1", hence the single letter difference).
* The most popular character with Genwunners is believed to be [[Optimus Prime (G1)|a big, red-colored badass dragon that was one of the most prominently featured Pokémon at the time, and was also the most powerful "good guy" on the heroes' team in his cartoon series]]. (Also, Pikachu, the [[kid-appeal character]] who [[Bumblebee (G1)|tended to be the closest to the main human character in the same series]], doesn't seem to get quite as much attention - but that's a different story.)
* The only other games that Genwunners sometimes like are ''Gold'' and ''Silver''. These are [[Beast Wars (franchise)|immediate sequels to the original games that are considered superior, but are not as widely recognized]], and also feature [[Dinobot (BW)|a slew of new, unique]] [[Waspinator (BW)|beloved Pokémon and characters]] , which are again not as widely recognized as the originals.
* The games that gets the most hate from Genwunners are ''Black'' and ''White'', which are [[Movie (franchise)|radical re-imaginings of the franchise that prominently feature and revolve around the human characters]], and [[Devastator (ROTF)|various Pokémon incorporate vulgar elements in their stories and designs]] (for example, one Pokémon is based on a walking pile of garbage, and another Pokémon has feces that ancient people used to keep warm). Furthermore, the cover legendaries are [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|a peaceful-looking, blue-eyed dragon with flames]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|a mechanical-looking dragon with red eyes, sharp teeth and a complicated design]].


==See also==
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* [[Trukk not munky]]
* [[Trukk not munky]]


==Footnotes==
==References==
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==External links==
==External links==
* [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14 Example of a breeding ground for GEEWUNNERS]
* [http://www.i-mockery.com/weeklies/weekly.php?type=movies&amp;id=14 Allegedly humorous review of the movie, written by a GEEWUNNER]
* [http://www.i-mockery.com/weeklies/weekly.php?type=movies&amp;id=14 Allegedly humorous review of the movie, written by a GEEWUNNER]
* [http://geewunner.com/ You knew it would happen sooner or later]
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Example of a fan even most GEEWUNNERS would consider "extreme": A 1984 purist]


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Latest revision as of 13:16, 4 September 2024

Prowl expresses his feelings on those damn G2 gimmick toys.

GEEWUN is a snarky fan term for people who seem to have knee-jerk negative reactions to, and continuing difficulty in tolerating any of the post-Generation 1 (aka "G1") incarnations of the Transformers property (keeping in mind that for some, "post-G1" means "anything after 1985").

History

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The earliest recorded use of the term "Geewun" (spelled as a normal word, not in all caps) originated with a TFArchive.com user named Cliffjumper, who first used it in January 2003.[1] Since he has a tendency of coming up with mocking puns based on existing names and fandom terms, it's possible that he did indeed coin the term. The term didn't see widespread use until 2004, when it was apparently spread to other parts of the fandom (including alt.toys.transformers) by Nevermore, himself a regular member of TF Archive. Mark Bristow (aka "Bodycount") presumably also helped popularize the term.

Later usage

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While the phenomenon of placing Generation 1 above everything else is nothing new, when the 2007 live-action movie was in production, the fandom experienced an ongoing influx of mindlessly angry "Generation X" members who seemed to regard Transformers not as a still-evolving cultural institution and business property, but as a sacred relic of their halcyon, Reagan-era childhoods. These bitter young people made their voices heard by preemptively denouncing the movie because it would ruin Transformers forever. GEEWUNners have most often been stereotyped as hating the live-action film series and treating it like the ultimate heresy against humanity; however, this has gone away over time after the movies started falling more and more out of favor with the general public too, and with the release of Bumblebee, which was able to win over many of the previous naysayers (GEEWUNNER or otherwise).

For some reason, many GEEWUNNERS were particularly incensed by the fact that Optimus Prime (the truck guy, not the tape guy) had flames painted on him, a detail that Michael Bay claims to have received death threats over. It probably would have been okay if the flames were burning down some forests, though.

Misconceptions

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The term is not intended as a catch-all nickname for anybody who likes Generation 1, only those who refuse to accept anything other than it (or at least how they remember it, correctly or not). It is, alas, often used in this way by those who do not like Generation 1 and are seeking to insult those who do. Additionally, "Geewunners" themselves sometimes trot the term around as evidence of "persecution", in the process misconstruing the term to make it appear worse (i.e., claiming that people that use the term hate Generation 1 and everyone who likes it).

External spread

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Much like how Ruined FOREVER spread to other fandoms, the Pokémon fandom uses the term "GENWUN" to describe fans who only like the original set of games (commonly known by them as Generation I or "Gen 1" but not as "G1", hence the single letter difference).

See also

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References

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