Talk:Ruined FOREVER

I see no point to having this article. --KilMichaelMcC 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on this page alone. -Derik 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I see no point to having those, either. --KilMichaelMcC 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

JaAm has a page. 'Ruined Forever' is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like True fan is. Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than Dull surprise, though possibly not as widely as Neon. (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...) My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- "huh, why dont' we have a page for that?" (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of Don Murray out of my brain.)

Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide. If a majority think it's not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always. -Derik 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I say it's as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Terrocon Blot (talk • contribs).

And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber. It's not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he's also got to sign my posts for me. Damn that Derik. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN. --Terrocon Blot 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I vote for keeping the page. As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --Sntint 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don't like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --KilMichaelMcC 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like Ruined FOREVER, Furmanism, and Chewed caramels be documented for all time, if not here?--Evil-yuusha 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Usage

Has "ruined forever" ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I'm not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. Interrobang 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. -Rotty 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure something very similar, at least, has been used. But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what's the problem? Can you recommend a better title for the article? Or are you saying the article shouldn't exist at all? --Steve-o 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --KilMichaelMcC 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I (and a number of others) used to think "Rapeing my childood" was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --FortMax 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It's still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--ZacWilliam 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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