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==Generation 1 | ==Generation 1 cartoon continuity== | ||
===''The Transformers: The Movie''=== | ===''The Transformers: The Movie''=== | ||
[[Image:DeadPrime.gif|left|180px|thumb| | [[Image:DeadPrime.gif|left|180px|thumb|"Either that wallpaper goes, or I do."]] | ||
* The best-known example is from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies of wounds from his battle with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Famously, his body turns gray as he dies. ([[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|Urban legend]] says his body also ''crumbles,'' but no such footage is known to exist.) Being the first time he died, it was actually unexpected. | * The best-known example is from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies of wounds from his battle with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Famously, his body turns gray as he dies. ([[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|Urban legend]] says his body also ''crumbles,'' but no such footage is known to exist.) Being the first time he died, it was actually unexpected. | ||
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===''Kiss Players''=== | |||
*Sometime between [[The Transformers: The Movie|2005]] and [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|2010]], [[Marissa Faireborn]] revives Optimus using the Galvatron cells in her body. Ultimately, all the cells are put back into Galvatron, and without them, Optimus promptly dies again. | |||
===Season 3=== | ===Season 3=== | ||
[[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|200px|thumb| | [[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Mind if I smoke?"]] | ||
* He returns from the dead twice; first as a zombie under [[Quintesson]] control in "[[Dark Awakening]]" as part of a plan to destroy the Autobots, only to die again when he overcomes the Quintesson control through the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and possibly the strength of his will, and sacrifices himself to save the Autobots. | * He returns from the dead twice; first as a zombie under [[Quintesson]] control in "[[Dark Awakening]]" as part of a plan to destroy the Autobots, only to die again when he overcomes the Quintesson control through the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and possibly the strength of his will, and sacrifices himself to save the Autobots. | ||
* He then was brought to life again (for reals, yo) in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime]]". | * He then was brought to life again (for reals, yo) in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime]]". | ||
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== | ===''The Headmasters''=== | ||
* In ''[[The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'', Optimus Prime died again—in another act of self sacrifice, of course—when he walked into [[Vector Sigma]] and tried to bring it back under control directly in "[[Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime]]". His body turned gray as he died, followed by a (likely only symbolic) scene of him telling [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] that it would be his responsibility to keep leading the Autobots and to continue his work, seen as a transparent, light-haloed figure against the sky and heard in third person narration as Rodimus stared into the sky. (Then again, given the [[Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime|proven]] existence of [[Starscream (G1)|gho]][[Alpha Trion (G1)|sts]]...) | |||
===''Return of Convoy''=== | |||
*Optimus Prime returned as a zombie once again this time as [[False Convoy]] resurrected by [[Dark Nova]] in a plot against the Autobots, but this plan went awry when the other [[Battlestars]] managed to restore Optimus's spark with the power of the [[Zodiac]], evolving him into Star Convoy in "[[The Battlestars]]". | |||
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* In the Japanese version of ''Generation 2'', Optimus Prime was badly wounded by Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] and almost died, but was resurrected and evolved yet again, this time into [[Laser Rod]] Optimus Prime, by the power of the [[Creation Matrix|Matrix]]. | * In the Japanese version of ''Generation 2'', Optimus Prime was badly wounded by Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] and almost died, but was resurrected and evolved yet again, this time into [[Laser Rod]] Optimus Prime, by the power of the [[Creation Matrix|Matrix]]. | ||
==Generation 1 Marvel Comics== | ==Generation 1 Marvel Comics== | ||
[[Image:Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg|right|200px|thumb| | [[Image:Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"I swear, I was wearing my faceplate when I left the house this morning."]] | ||
*In "[[Afterdeath!]]", Prime, after failing to live up to his moral principles while playing a video game, volunteers to be killed. The [[Autobots]] launch his funeral bier into space. Fortunately, the creator of the video game, [[Ethan Zachary]], saves a backup copy of Prime's mind on a [[floppy disk]]. We first meet this virtual Prime sixteen issues later in "[[Pretender to the Throne!]]". He gets his new [[Powermaster]] body two issues thereafter, in "[[People Power!]]". | *In "[[Afterdeath!]]", Prime, after failing to live up to his moral principles while playing a video game, volunteers to be killed. The [[Autobots]] launch his funeral bier into space. Fortunately, the creator of the video game, [[Ethan Zachary]], saves a backup copy of Prime's mind on a [[floppy disk]]. We first meet this virtual Prime sixteen issues later in "[[Pretender to the Throne!]]". He gets his new [[Powermaster]] body two issues thereafter, in "[[People Power!]]". | ||
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*About thirty issues later, Prime sacrifices himself to defeat [[Unicron]], in "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]". However, his Powermaster partner, [[Hi-Q]], survives, and almost immediately begins babbling about how he's ''really'' Optimus Prime. This turns out to be true, and the [[Last Autobot]] metamorphoses Hi-Q into Prime (with a new [[Actionmaster]] body) in [[End of the Road! (US)|the last issue of the original Marvel US series]]. | *About thirty issues later, Prime sacrifices himself to defeat [[Unicron]], in "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]". However, his Powermaster partner, [[Hi-Q]], survives, and almost immediately begins babbling about how he's ''really'' Optimus Prime. This turns out to be true, and the [[Last Autobot]] metamorphoses Hi-Q into Prime (with a new [[Actionmaster]] body) in [[End of the Road! (US)|the last issue of the original Marvel US series]]. | ||
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[[Image:Swarmoptimus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Unleashing the light of the Matrix upon a great evil. Again.]] | [[Image:Swarmoptimus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Unleashing the light of the Matrix upon a great evil. Again.]] | ||
*This Prime wasn't done dying yet. His adventures continued in the G2 comics, and he died defeating the [[Swarm]] in the final issue of that series, "[[A Rage in Heaven!]]". The Swarm reconstituted him three pages later (in a body based on his then-current [[Combat Hero]] toy). | *This Prime wasn't done dying yet. His adventures continued in the G2 comics, and he died defeating the [[Swarm]] in the final issue of that series, "[[A Rage in Heaven!]]". The Swarm reconstituted him three pages later (in a body based on his then-current [[Combat Hero]] toy). | ||
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==Beast | ==''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity== | ||
[[Image:Smelt Prime.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Actually, he | ===''Beast Wars'' cartoon=== | ||
In ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' and ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]] | [[Image:Smelt Prime.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Actually, he's still alive, but dying.]] | ||
In ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' and ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', you could mark the end of a season by the near-death experience of one [[Optimus Primal|Optimus]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)|another]]... | |||
*At [[Other Voices, Part 2|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Wars | *At [[Other Voices, Part 2|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Wars'', [[Optimus Primal]] piloted a bomb-equipped stasis pod in an attempt to destroy the [[Planet Buster]]. Unfortunately, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] had sealed the pod's hatch, and Optimus blew up with it. [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|Early in the second season]] (a few hours later as far as the characters were concerned), [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] managed to unite Optimus's drifting [[spark]] with a blank [[protoform]], thus bringing him back to life (and in a new [[Transmetal]] body, too). | ||
*At [[The Agenda (Part III)|the end of second season]], the ''Beast Wars'' Megatron came very close to killing the original Optimus Prime. But [[Optimal Situation|Prime didn't ''quite'' die]], so we really shouldn't count it. | *At [[The Agenda (Part III)|the end of second season]], the ''Beast Wars'' Megatron came very close to killing the original Optimus Prime. But [[Optimal Situation|Prime didn't ''quite'' die]], so we really shouldn't count it. | ||
*At [[End of the Line|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Machines | ===''Beast Machines'' cartoon=== | ||
*At [[End of the Line|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Machines'', Optimus and Megatron had a cataclysmic battle, using the energies of [[Vector Sigma]] and the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. This would have destroyed [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], but Optimus took the warring energies into himself and disintegrated. However, his spark was trapped within the [[Oracle]], and the other [[Maximals]] convinced him to return to the real world at [[Fallout|the start of second season]]. The Oracle kindly gave him a new body (which, believe it or not, was ''not'' a new toy). | |||
*At [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|the end of the series]], Optimus gave his life to defeat Megatron once and for all, pushing him into the [[technorganic]] core of the planet. In assorted ancillary media ([[Universe (2003 comic)|convention comics]], [[Beast Wars Reborn|text]] [[Alternators (toyline)|stories]]), he comes back to life yet again. | *At [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|the end of the series]], Optimus gave his life to defeat Megatron once and for all, pushing him into the [[technorganic]] core of the planet. In assorted ancillary media ([[Universe (2003 comic)|convention comics]], [[Beast Wars Reborn|text]] [[Alternators (toyline)|stories]]), he comes back to life yet again. | ||
(Strangely, the end of the third season of ''Beast Wars'' had no Optimus deaths whatsoever! A half-dozen ''[[Depth Charge|o]][[Tigerhawk|t]][[Dinobot II|h]][[Inferno (BW)|e]][[Quickstrike (BW)|r]][[Rampage (BW)|s]]'' died, but not Optimus | (Strangely, the end of the third season of ''Beast Wars'' had no Optimus deaths whatsoever! A half-dozen ''[[Depth Charge|o]][[Tigerhawk|t]][[Dinobot II|h]][[Inferno (BW)|e]][[Quickstrike (BW)|r]][[Rampage (BW)|s]]'' died, but not Optimus.) | ||
== | ==''Armada'' cartoon== | ||
[[Image:Sshot-arm-39-4.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Now Optimus, don | [[Image:Sshot-arm-39-4.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Now Optimus, don't go all to pieces. You say you have to split? Well, you're a chip off the ol' block.]] | ||
* In the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Crisis]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] used his body to block the blast of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s [[Hydra Cannon]], protecting the [[Earth]]. When the cannon's energy is spent, we see Optimus turn grayish-white, then ''actually'' crumble to bits. A bunch of [[Mini-Cons]] use the [[Matrix]] to resurrect him [[Miracle|three episodes later]]. | * In the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Crisis]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] used his body to block the blast of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s [[Hydra Cannon]], protecting the [[Earth]]. When the cannon's energy is spent, we see Optimus turn grayish-white, then ''actually'' crumble to bits. A bunch of [[Mini-Cons]] use the [[Matrix]] to resurrect him [[Miracle|three episodes later]]. | ||
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== | ==''Armada ''comic== | ||
* The corpse of an [[Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)|Optimus Prime]] (killed by Unicron) from an alternate universe appeared in the ''[[Armada (comic)|Armada]]'' comic issue titled "[[Worlds Collide, Part 1]]". Yep, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died. He doesn't turn gray, but his colors are faded. | * The corpse of an [[Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)|Optimus Prime]] (killed by Unicron) from an alternate universe appeared in the ''[[Armada (comic)|Armada]]'' comic issue titled "[[Worlds Collide, Part 1]]". Yep, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died. He doesn't turn gray, but his colors are faded. | ||
==''Universe''== | |||
==Universe== | |||
[[Image:Nemesisprimetfuclone.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Technically, this is the clone.]] | [[Image:Nemesisprimetfuclone.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Technically, this is the clone.]] | ||
* The corpse of an Optimus Prime (killed by [[Megazarak]]) from an alternate universe was cloned by Unicron to create [[Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)|Nemesis Prime]]. The clone, before he became Nemesis, appeared in '' | * The corpse of an Optimus Prime (killed by [[Megazarak]]) from an alternate universe was cloned by Unicron to create [[Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)|Nemesis Prime]]. The clone, before he became Nemesis, appeared in ''Cybertron'' comic issue "[[Balancing Act, Part 2]]". Once again, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died. | ||
===Transformers The Game=== | ==Movie continuity== | ||
In Decepticon mode storyline, Optimus Prime is beaten to the ground, and as he crawls for the All Spark, Megatron smashes his head with his flail ... poor Prime, he gets the most violent death. | ===''Transformers The Game''=== | ||
In Decepticon mode storyline, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] is beaten to the ground, and as he crawls for the [[All Spark]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] smashes his head with his flail ... poor Prime, he gets the most violent death. | |||
===Titan Magazines=== | ===Titan Magazines=== | ||
In an alternate timeline, Optimus was left in a frozen, ''near''-death state. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} | In an alternate timeline, Optimus was left in a frozen, ''near''-death state. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} | ||
==''Animated'' cartoon== | |||
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[[Image:TFAnimated transformandrollout DEATH.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Dead in the third episode for 75 seconds. It's a new record!]] | [[Image:TFAnimated transformandrollout DEATH.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Dead in the third episode for 75 seconds. It's a new record!]] | ||
* In the third part of the ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' movie, "[[Transform and Roll Out!]]", [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] dies after his battle with [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]. Like the Generation 1 Prime before him, he turns gray upon dying. Seventy-five seconds later, [[Sari Sumdac]] uses the mysterious [[Key]] to revive him. It's a new record, Primey! | * In the third part of the ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' movie, "[[Transform and Roll Out!]]", [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] dies after his battle with [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]. Like the Generation 1 Prime before him, he turns gray upon dying. Seventy-five seconds later, [[Sari Sumdac]] uses the mysterious [[Key]] to revive him. It's a new record, Primey! | ||
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==See also== | ==See also== | ||
*[[Prime Spark]] | *[[Prime Spark]]—The short story explores the question of where <s>all</s> [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|most]] of those Optimus-es go when they die. (Answer: someplace dull.) | ||
* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], who is [[:Image:Dirge DeathSerpentor.jpg|killed]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathSwarm.jpg|off]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathTimelines.jpg|in]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathUnicron.jpg|many]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathArmada.jpg|continuities]] (but less than [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]]). | * [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], who is [[:Image:Dirge DeathSerpentor.jpg|killed]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathSwarm.jpg|off]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathTimelines.jpg|in]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathUnicron.jpg|many]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathArmada.jpg|continuities]] (but less than [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]]). | ||
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Across all continuities (except for the live-action-movie-verse, so far, and Robots in Disguise, though only just), Optimus Prime dies a lot. This happens for various reasons:
- It allows for him to be replaced by a new character (and thus a new toy).
- It allows for him to come back from the dead in a new body (again, a new toy).
- It's dramatic (in theory).
- It makes him into something of a Christ-figure.
Some examples:
Generation 1 cartoon continuity
The Transformers: The Movie
- The best-known example is from The Transformers: The Movie, in which Optimus Prime dies of wounds from his battle with Megatron. Famously, his body turns gray as he dies. (Urban legend says his body also crumbles, but no such footage is known to exist.) Being the first time he died, it was actually unexpected.
Kiss Players
- Sometime between 2005 and 2010, Marissa Faireborn revives Optimus using the Galvatron cells in her body. Ultimately, all the cells are put back into Galvatron, and without them, Optimus promptly dies again.
Season 3

- He returns from the dead twice; first as a zombie under Quintesson control in "Dark Awakening" as part of a plan to destroy the Autobots, only to die again when he overcomes the Quintesson control through the power of the Matrix and possibly the strength of his will, and sacrifices himself to save the Autobots.
- He then was brought to life again (for reals, yo) in "The Return of Optimus Prime".
The Headmasters
- In The Headmasters, Optimus Prime died again—in another act of self sacrifice, of course—when he walked into Vector Sigma and tried to bring it back under control directly in "Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime". His body turned gray as he died, followed by a (likely only symbolic) scene of him telling Rodimus Prime that it would be his responsibility to keep leading the Autobots and to continue his work, seen as a transparent, light-haloed figure against the sky and heard in third person narration as Rodimus stared into the sky. (Then again, given the proven existence of ghosts...)
Return of Convoy
- Optimus Prime returned as a zombie once again this time as False Convoy resurrected by Dark Nova in a plot against the Autobots, but this plan went awry when the other Battlestars managed to restore Optimus's spark with the power of the Zodiac, evolving him into Star Convoy in "The Battlestars".
Generation 2
- In the Japanese version of Generation 2, Optimus Prime was badly wounded by Megatron's fusion cannon and almost died, but was resurrected and evolved yet again, this time into Laser Rod Optimus Prime, by the power of the Matrix.
Generation 1 Marvel Comics

- In "Afterdeath!", Prime, after failing to live up to his moral principles while playing a video game, volunteers to be killed. The Autobots launch his funeral bier into space. Fortunately, the creator of the video game, Ethan Zachary, saves a backup copy of Prime's mind on a floppy disk. We first meet this virtual Prime sixteen issues later in "Pretender to the Throne!". He gets his new Powermaster body two issues thereafter, in "People Power!".
- A previous attempt was made at making virtual Prime a new body in "Totaled!". The body spontaneously blew up.
- About thirty issues later, Prime sacrifices himself to defeat Unicron, in "On the Edge of Extinction!". However, his Powermaster partner, Hi-Q, survives, and almost immediately begins babbling about how he's really Optimus Prime. This turns out to be true, and the Last Autobot metamorphoses Hi-Q into Prime (with a new Actionmaster body) in the last issue of the original Marvel US series.
Generation 2 Marvel Comics

- This Prime wasn't done dying yet. His adventures continued in the G2 comics, and he died defeating the Swarm in the final issue of that series, "A Rage in Heaven!". The Swarm reconstituted him three pages later (in a body based on his then-current Combat Hero toy).
Beast Wars cartoon continuity
Beast Wars cartoon
In Beast Wars and Beast Machines, you could mark the end of a season by the near-death experience of one Optimus or another...
- At the end of the first season of Beast Wars, Optimus Primal piloted a bomb-equipped stasis pod in an attempt to destroy the Planet Buster. Unfortunately, Megatron had sealed the pod's hatch, and Optimus blew up with it. Early in the second season (a few hours later as far as the characters were concerned), Rhinox managed to unite Optimus's drifting spark with a blank protoform, thus bringing him back to life (and in a new Transmetal body, too).
- At the end of second season, the Beast Wars Megatron came very close to killing the original Optimus Prime. But Prime didn't quite die, so we really shouldn't count it.
Beast Machines cartoon
- At the end of the first season of Beast Machines, Optimus and Megatron had a cataclysmic battle, using the energies of Vector Sigma and the Plasma Energy Chamber. This would have destroyed Cybertron, but Optimus took the warring energies into himself and disintegrated. However, his spark was trapped within the Oracle, and the other Maximals convinced him to return to the real world at the start of second season. The Oracle kindly gave him a new body (which, believe it or not, was not a new toy).
- At the end of the series, Optimus gave his life to defeat Megatron once and for all, pushing him into the technorganic core of the planet. In assorted ancillary media (convention comics, text stories), he comes back to life yet again.
(Strangely, the end of the third season of Beast Wars had no Optimus deaths whatsoever! A half-dozen others died, but not Optimus.)
Armada cartoon
- In the Armada episode "Crisis", Optimus Prime used his body to block the blast of Megatron's Hydra Cannon, protecting the Earth. When the cannon's energy is spent, we see Optimus turn grayish-white, then actually crumble to bits. A bunch of Mini-Cons use the Matrix to resurrect him three episodes later.
Armada comic
- The corpse of an Optimus Prime (killed by Unicron) from an alternate universe appeared in the Armada comic issue titled "Worlds Collide, Part 1". Yep, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died. He doesn't turn gray, but his colors are faded.
Universe

- The corpse of an Optimus Prime (killed by Megazarak) from an alternate universe was cloned by Unicron to create Nemesis Prime. The clone, before he became Nemesis, appeared in Cybertron comic issue "Balancing Act, Part 2". Once again, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died.
Movie continuity
Transformers The Game
In Decepticon mode storyline, Optimus Prime is beaten to the ground, and as he crawls for the All Spark, Megatron smashes his head with his flail ... poor Prime, he gets the most violent death.
Titan Magazines
In an alternate timeline, Optimus was left in a frozen, near-death state. Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1
Animated cartoon

- In the third part of the Animated movie, "Transform and Roll Out!", Optimus Prime dies after his battle with Starscream. Like the Generation 1 Prime before him, he turns gray upon dying. Seventy-five seconds later, Sari Sumdac uses the mysterious Key to revive him. It's a new record, Primey!
See also
- Prime Spark—The short story explores the question of where
allmost of those Optimus-es go when they die. (Answer: someplace dull.)
- Dirge, who is killed off in many continuities (but less than Optimus Prime).
- Cy-Kill, who is repeatedly killed COS HE SUCKS LOLOLOLOL.

