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I think we may be confusing Functionism and Ratioism a bit here. Functionism is that your altmode determines your lot in life. Ratioism to my recollection is sometimes a corollary, but is the specific notion that the more common altmodes are effectively disposable, while the rarer ones are more valuable. Both of them were bucked by the Decepticon movement that practiced a taboo of wholly refitting yourself into a new purpose, with Megatron's gladiatorial refit being the most prominent example. The forged versus constructed cold debate sometimes gets lumped in with this as well, but only insofar as it's yet another damaging notion prewar society had towards class and station based off of how you were built.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)
I think we may be confusing Functionism and Ratioism a bit here. Functionism is that your altmode determines your lot in life. Ratioism to my recollection is sometimes a corollary, but is the specific notion that the more common altmodes are effectively disposable, while the rarer ones are more valuable. Both of them were bucked by the Decepticon movement that practiced a taboo of wholly refitting yourself into a new purpose, with Megatron's gladiatorial refit being the most prominent example. The forged versus constructed cold debate sometimes gets lumped in with this as well, but only insofar as it's yet another damaging notion prewar society had towards class and station based off of how you were built.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)
:I admit I'm only putting this page together from snipets of dialogue, but my impression was that ratioism was a subset of the functionist doctrine. In ''[[Before & After]]'', Chromedome mentioned the rise of the functionists and their Grand Cybertronian Taxonomy, i.e. a classification into ordered categories. He then went into how Rewind was defined as one of the disposable class. Ratioism, therefore, appears to be a mechanism by which the functionist's taxonomy was applied. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 22:46, 27 December 2012 (EST)
:I admit I'm only putting this page together from snipets of dialogue, but my impression was that ratioism was a subset of the functionist doctrine. In ''[[Before & After]]'', Chromedome mentioned the rise of the functionists and their Grand Cybertronian Taxonomy, i.e. a classification into ordered categories. He then went into how Rewind was defined as one of the disposable class. Ratioism, therefore, appears to be a mechanism by which the functionist's taxonomy was applied. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 22:46, 27 December 2012 (EST)
Has there been any mention of how triple-changers were treated under Functionist rule?  Given the general nature of the Functionist government it seems like they'd be up for similar levels of discrimination as Point One Percenters. [[User:Battlemaster|Battlemaster]] ([[User talk:Battlemaster|talk]]) 02:34, 9 October 2016 (EDT)

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I think we may be confusing Functionism and Ratioism a bit here. Functionism is that your altmode determines your lot in life. Ratioism to my recollection is sometimes a corollary, but is the specific notion that the more common altmodes are effectively disposable, while the rarer ones are more valuable. Both of them were bucked by the Decepticon movement that practiced a taboo of wholly refitting yourself into a new purpose, with Megatron's gladiatorial refit being the most prominent example. The forged versus constructed cold debate sometimes gets lumped in with this as well, but only insofar as it's yet another damaging notion prewar society had towards class and station based off of how you were built.--RosicrucianTalk 22:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)

I admit I'm only putting this page together from snipets of dialogue, but my impression was that ratioism was a subset of the functionist doctrine. In Before & After, Chromedome mentioned the rise of the functionists and their Grand Cybertronian Taxonomy, i.e. a classification into ordered categories. He then went into how Rewind was defined as one of the disposable class. Ratioism, therefore, appears to be a mechanism by which the functionist's taxonomy was applied. --Xaaron 22:46, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Has there been any mention of how triple-changers were treated under Functionist rule? Given the general nature of the Functionist government it seems like they'd be up for similar levels of discrimination as Point One Percenters. Battlemaster (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2016 (EDT)