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[[Image:Rumble_and_frenzy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.]] | [[Image:Rumble_and_frenzy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.]] | ||
'''FIBRIR''' stands for "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is blue, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is red". Likewise, '''FIRRIB''' means "Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue". The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known. | An acronym sometimes bandied about by fans, '''FIBRIR''' stands for "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is blue, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is red". Likewise, '''FIRRIB''' means "Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue". The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known. | ||
The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]]s, Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]'s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show's [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the "red robot"). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red. | The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]]s, Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]'s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show's [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the "red robot"). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red. | ||
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Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic. | Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic. | ||
The movement was codified by a MUSH user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]</ref>, who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on [[alt.toys.transformers]], frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group's FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]</ref> | The FIRRIB movement was codified by a MUSH user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]</ref>, who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on [[alt.toys.transformers]], frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group's FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]</ref> | ||
The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters' names around. | The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters' names around. | ||
Revision as of 19:06, 16 February 2008

An acronym sometimes bandied about by fans, FIBRIR stands for "Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red". Likewise, FIRRIB means "Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue". The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known.
The debate revolves around the colors of the Decepticon Mini-Cassettes, Rumble and Frenzy. It was Hasbro's intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, Marvel Comics and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of Generation 1, and naturally, it was intended for the cartoon series to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show's production bible, which identifies Rumble as the "red robot"). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red.
Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, fans would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic.
The FIRRIB movement was codified by a MUSH user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994[1], who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on alt.toys.transformers, frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group's FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.[2]
The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters' names around.
As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:
Items in the following table are listed in release order. E.g., the original toys came first.
| Frenzy | Rumble | |
| Original toys | Blue | Red |
| Marvel comics | Blue | Red |
| US cartoon | Red | Blue |
| Japanese cartoon | Blue | Red |
| Generation 2 toys | Purple | Red on white[3] |
| Dreamwave comics | Blue | Red |
| Devil's Due comics | Red | Blue |
| Alternators toys | None | Red |
Footnotes
- ↑ ATT FAQ file, 1994
- ↑ ATT FAQ file, 1998
- ↑ This toy was never released.

