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==Quotes==


==Notes==
==Notes==
* In the first draft of the fold-out cover's battle scene, Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] was used rather than the ''Generation 2'' tank model.{{fact|First draft? Published where?}}
===Artwork and technical errors===
* Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.
 
===Continuity errors===
* Optimus Prime mentions [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered [[Galvatron II|one Galvatron]] ended up dead, and the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|few]] that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether ''this'' issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)
 
===Continuity notes===
* Grimlock and others revived with [[Nucleon]] can transform again, with no explanation. Since "[[Another Time & Place]]" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
* Grimlock and others revived with [[Nucleon]] can transform again, with no explanation. Since "[[Another Time & Place]]" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
* The [[Last Autobot]] was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the [[Transformer|children of Primus]]. He appears to be no longer around.
* The [[Last Autobot]] was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the [[Transformer|children of Primus]]. He appears to be no longer around.
* Optimus Prime for some reason describes the Cybertronian Empire as "sounding very wholesome" before stating it's just like the Decepticons is an odd moment for him since Jhiaxus admits openly that they conquer and exterminate worlds.
* Grimlock cites Earth as a place where the Autobots learnt the value of human life. That's a big step for him as aside from a few exceptions, ''he'' did not see the value of human life for most of the G1 run.
* Grimlock cites Earth as a place where the Autobots learnt the value of human life. That's a big step for him as aside from a few exceptions, ''he'' did not see the value of human life for most of the G1 run.
* Megatron and the Joes cameo is a tie-in to the prequel run in ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'': Megatron has gained his new body in an alliance with [[Cobra]]. A version of the same scene appeared in "[[Goin' South]]", although Optimus was around to pick the phone up in that story and Megatron was in [[Milleville|a town]] and not the ''Ark''.  
* Megatron and the Joes cameo is a tie-in to the prequel run in ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'': Megatron has gained his new body in an alliance with [[Cobra]]. A version of the same scene appeared in "[[Goin' South]]", although Optimus was around to pick the phone up in that story and Megatron was in [[Milleville|a town]] and not the ''Ark''.  
 
* Jhiaxus' describes the Cybertronian Empire as "one race", made up solely of former Decepticons, and that the Autobot and Decepticons from in the G1 series had been fighting a war that had been over for four million years elsewhere in the universe.
===Errors===
* Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.
* Optimus Prime mentions [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered [[Galvatron II|one Galvatron]] ended up dead, and the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|few]] that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether ''this'' issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)
* Jhiaxus' description of the Autobots and Decepticons fighting an old conflict while the Cybertronian Empire is "one race" doesn't make much sense considering that the Cybertronian Empire is composed solely of former Decepticons.
 
===References===
* The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.
* On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from [[End of the Road! (US)|the final Generation 1 issue]].  
* On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from [[End of the Road! (US)|the final Generation 1 issue]].  
* Pages 25–26 tie in to the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] comics tie-in from issues #138–142.   
* Pages 25–26 tie in to the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] comics tie-in from issues #138–142.   
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* Page 31 depicts a flashback of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] attacking [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.
* Page 31 depicts a flashback of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] attacking [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.


===Covers (2)===
===Real-life references===
* '''Cover A:''' Optimus Prime with bullets in his head  by [[Derek Yaniger]]
* The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.
* '''RI cover:''' foil version of cover A
 
===Other trivia===
* In the first draft of the fold-out cover's battle scene, Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] was used rather than the ''Generation 2'' tank model.{{fact|First draft? Published where?}}
 
===Covers (4)===
 
<gallery>
File:MarvelUSG2-01.jpg|'''Transformers: Generation 2 #1''' cover A
File:Dark designs tpb cover.jpg|'''Dark designs''' TPB cover
File:Dark designs hb cover.jpg|'''Dark designs''' Hardcover
</gallery>
 
* '''Transformers: Generation 2 #1''' cover A: Optimus Prime with bullets in his head  by [[Derek Yaniger]]
* '''Transformers: Generation 2 #1''' RI cover: foil version of cover A
* '''Dark designs''' TPB cover: [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]]'s toe and half of the [[Liege Maximo (G2)|Liege Maximo]], by [[Andrew Wildman|Andy Wildman]].
* '''Dark designs''' Hardback cover art: Megatron and the graves of [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], by [[John Byrne]] and [[Chris Blythe]].


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Revision as of 20:58, 12 February 2015

The name or term "War Without End" refers to more than one character or idea. For a list of other meanings, see War Without End (disambiguation).
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"War Without End!"
Publisher Marvel Comics
First published September 1993
Cover date November 1993
Script Simon Furman
Art Derek Yaniger
Colors Sarra Mossoff
Lettering Richard Starkings with Gaushell
Editor Rob Tokar
Continuity Marvel Comics continuity

They're baaaaaack...

Synopsis

In deep space, a group of construction workers are brutally slaughtered, without warning or quarter, by heavily armed brutes who enjoy their work... Yes, it's a team of Autobots led by Grimlock, and they've just stopped some Decepticons from destroying the planet of Nexus Seven. When Blades and Hound begin arguing about each other's conduct, Grimlock tells them to remember that they're all Autobots: "good guys". Later, Jhiaxus, the leader of this group of Decepticons, hears about the attack and decides to take matters into his own hands. Curiously, he has to explain to his aide Rook what the 'archaic' terms "Autobot" and "Decepticon" mean...

Optimus Prime is called for a meeting on an uninhabited world with Grimlock. (Actually some of Jhiaxus' Decepticons are still there but Optimus, Hot Rod and Kup kill them all) He's troubled: the war is over and all their old enemies are gone, but many Autobots like Grimlock have gone off looking for new reasons to fight. He himself is having visions of a great and terrible apocalypse, and worries he too is just looking for another reason to fight. This concern ends when Grimlock and his team reveal that this dead planet used to be inhabited and the Decepticon colonists "miscalculated", destroying the environment. Worse, they've found seventeen inhabited planets that have been violently eco-structured into replica Cybertrons! Optimus knows that even if Bludgeon lied about giving up war, he'd never be able to do all this... which is when Jhiaxus catches up and captures them all!

Meanwhile, on Earth, the G.I. Joe military unit send a message to Cybertron: Megatron is back with a new body!

On Jhiaxus' flagship, Grimlock and Prime are taken before the Decepticon leader to be informed of the truth: the Cybertronian Empire is not, in their mind, a group of Decepticons, but people who've put the war and the factions behind them. They realised Cybertron was a wreck four million years ago, while Prime was asleep on the Ark, and left it behind, leaving behind all the uncool losers like Straxus. The Autobots, the Decepticons, and the war are outdated ideas. When Optimus protests that the Empire, for all Jhiaxus' polite words, is still oppressing and killing worlds, Jhiaxus says that they simply don't care about other life forms: the genocides aren't about malice, the aliens just get in the way.

Optimus is left shaken by the discovery of this larger picture but Grimlock snaps him out of it, pointing out how the Cybertronians see too big a picture: the Autobots learned on Earth how important the 'lesser' life forms were. He breaks them out and they spring their fellow Autobots, cripple the ship with an explosive, and escape on a stolen vessel. Jhiaxus is annoyed but lets them run... so he can pursue them to their base and destroy all of them!

The Autobots now know the war is still on and even greater than they knew, but terrible as this threat is, Optimus Prime is still having visions: there's something even worse on the horizon...

(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)

Autobots Decepticons Humans Others Cybertronians

Quotes

Notes

Artwork and technical errors

  • Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.

Continuity errors

  • Optimus Prime mentions Galvatron among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered one Galvatron ended up dead, and the few that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether this issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)

Continuity notes

  • Grimlock and others revived with Nucleon can transform again, with no explanation. Since "Another Time & Place" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
  • The Last Autobot was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the children of Primus. He appears to be no longer around.
  • Grimlock cites Earth as a place where the Autobots learnt the value of human life. That's a big step for him as aside from a few exceptions, he did not see the value of human life for most of the G1 run.
  • Megatron and the Joes cameo is a tie-in to the prequel run in G.I. Joe: Megatron has gained his new body in an alliance with Cobra. A version of the same scene appeared in "Goin' South", although Optimus was around to pick the phone up in that story and Megatron was in a town and not the Ark.
  • Jhiaxus' describes the Cybertronian Empire as "one race", made up solely of former Decepticons, and that the Autobot and Decepticons from in the G1 series had been fighting a war that had been over for four million years elsewhere in the universe.
  • On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from the final Generation 1 issue.
  • Pages 25–26 tie in to the G.I. Joe comics tie-in from issues #138–142.
  • Page 28 shows Straxus in a flashback, describing him as a "small-minded tyrant".
  • Page 31 depicts a flashback of Ratbat attacking Buster Witwicky, presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.

Real-life references

  • The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.

Other trivia

Covers (4)

  • Transformers: Generation 2 #1 cover A
    Transformers: Generation 2 #1 cover A
  • Dark designs TPB cover
    Dark designs TPB cover
  • Dark designs Hardcover
    Dark designs Hardcover

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