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* Ironhide references [[The Transformers: The Movie|having been killed]] by a Megatron before. | * Ironhide references [[The Transformers: The Movie|having been killed]] by a Megatron before. | ||
* The profile card for Optimus Primal's BotCon 2006 toy stated that he was a veteran of the last Great War which resulted in the defeat of the Predacons. | * The profile card for Optimus Primal's BotCon 2006 toy stated that he was a veteran of the last Great War which resulted in the defeat of the Predacons. | ||
* The profile card for Razorclaw's BotCon 2009 toy (tying into his appearance in "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]") stated that he was doublecrossed and assassinated by the Tripredacus Council. | * The profile card for Razorclaw's BotCon 2009 toy (tying into his appearance in "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]") stated that he was doublecrossed and assassinated by the Tripredacus Council. However, see below. | ||
===Transformers references=== | ===Transformers references=== | ||
* Magnaboss references the "such heroic nonsense" line from the movie. | * Magnaboss references the "such heroic nonsense" line from the movie. | ||
* The [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] is mentioned. | * The [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] is mentioned. | ||
* One of the Decepticons under Megatron's command is [[Terradive (TF 2010)|''Transformers'' (2010) Terradive]]. | |||
===Real-life references=== | ===Real-life references=== | ||
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**This also indicates that all the Decepticons who got protoformed were somehow converted to Maximals, since show-Predacons are Maximal protoforms with a Predacon [[shell program]] installed. | **This also indicates that all the Decepticons who got protoformed were somehow converted to Maximals, since show-Predacons are Maximal protoforms with a Predacon [[shell program]] installed. | ||
**Also, this apparently means the blank, sparkless protoforms the ''Axalon'' carried are basically corpses, we guess? Which means that in season two of the show and beyond, Optimus Primal is wearing someone's skin! | **Also, this apparently means the blank, sparkless protoforms the ''Axalon'' carried are basically corpses, we guess? Which means that in season two of the show and beyond, Optimus Primal is wearing someone's skin! | ||
*Airazor is in one of these stasis pods (labeled "Airazor") and Tigatron is not, which makes the events of " | *Airazor is in one of these stasis pods (labeled "Airazor") and Tigatron is not, which makes the events of "Dawn of Future's Past" pretty implausible. | ||
*It is implied that Generation 1 Inferno becomes [[Inferno (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Inferno]]. He is hit by transmatter and loaded up onto the ''Axalon'' in a stasis pod labeled "Inferno." However, the author stated at [[BotCon 2016]] that this is not necessarily a fact as it was delierately left open <s>to be ignored</s> to reader interpretation. | *It is implied that Generation 1 Inferno becomes [[Inferno (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Inferno]]. He is hit by transmatter and loaded up onto the ''Axalon'' in a stasis pod labeled "Inferno." However, the author stated at [[BotCon 2016]] that this is not necessarily a fact as it was delierately left open <s>to be ignored</s> to reader interpretation. | ||
*Speaking of labeled pods, the pods in the show weren't labeled with who was inside them, aside from the obvious exception of [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]]. | *Speaking of labeled pods, the pods in the show weren't labeled with who was inside them, aside from the obvious exception of [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]]. | ||
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*Pre-beast forms of Air Hammer and Blackarachnia are seen walking around. | *Pre-beast forms of Air Hammer and Blackarachnia are seen walking around. | ||
*The death of [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], a being composed of black, yellow, and red mammals and birds, is commemorated with... a purple insect face? | *The death of [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], a being composed of black, yellow, and red mammals and birds, is commemorated with... a purple insect face? | ||
*The profile card for the "Dawn of Future's Past" version of Generation 1 Razorclaw says that after the defeat of the Decepticons in the Great War, he led the nascent Predacon faction against the Autobots until the Tripredacus Council seemingly assassinated him. In addition, Divebomb himself appears alive in "Dawn of Future's Past", and the profile card for "Dawn of Future's Past" [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] says that Divebomb recruited Ravage to the Predacons. Not how it plays out here, where Razorclaw's entire team is knocked off by Predacus, who includes Ravage, in the final battle of the Great War. | |||
===Other trivia=== | ===Other trivia=== | ||
Revision as of 07:51, 15 April 2016
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| "Dawn of the Predacus" | |||||||||||||
| Publisher | IDW Publishing | ||||||||||||
| First published | April 7, 2016 (BotCon 2016) | ||||||||||||
| Writers | John-Paul Bove | ||||||||||||
| Art | Corin Howell | ||||||||||||
| Colors | John-Paul Bove | ||||||||||||
| Color assists | Ed Pirrie | ||||||||||||
| Letters | Chris Mowry | ||||||||||||
| Editor | John Barber | ||||||||||||
| Continuity | Ha ha ha ha ha ha what continuity? | ||||||||||||
Every Maximal and Predacon you know was actually an Autobot or Decepticon who fought in the Great War. Uh...
Synopsis
Featured characters
(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)
| Autobots / Maximals | Decepticons / Predacons | Others |
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Quotes
Notes
- According to the author,[1] this story takes place circa 2035, 30 years after The Transformers: The Movie and 300 years before Beast Wars. It also precedes "Dawn of Future's Past".[2]
Continuity notes
- Ironhide references having been killed by a Megatron before.
- The profile card for Optimus Primal's BotCon 2006 toy stated that he was a veteran of the last Great War which resulted in the defeat of the Predacons.
- The profile card for Razorclaw's BotCon 2009 toy (tying into his appearance in "Dawn of Future's Past") stated that he was doublecrossed and assassinated by the Tripredacus Council. However, see below.
Transformers references
- Magnaboss references the "such heroic nonsense" line from the movie.
- The Swarm is mentioned.
- One of the Decepticons under Megatron's command is Transformers (2010) Terradive.
Real-life references
What the friggin' frick
- Three hundred years ago, Optimus Primal, Rhinox, and Rattrap (in their "Dawn of Future's Past" bodies) are flying around in the Axalon. Let's break this down:
- Rattrap shouldn't know Primal yet. It's pretty clear, starting in "Beast Wars (Part 1)", that Rattrap is someone who is new to Optimus Primal's command, and also that Optimus Primal himself is new to command.
- Rattrap seems to name Optimus Primal within a scene in this book. Because of how his face looks kinda like that of Optimus Prime.
- As this story predates the existence of Maximals and Predacons, and there is no indication that any sort of downsizing has taken place yet, apparently in the past the Axalon was scaled to Generation 1-sized Transformers and... eventually shrunk after the war ended...? According to the author during BotCon, there was just "less room" on the Axalon during that scene.
- That's right, nearly every Maximal and Predacon from the cartoon, plus some who didn't appear in the cartoon, all existed concurrently with the Autobots and Decepticons of old, including several major Generation 1 characters, even! It's pretty weird that these characters would go on to regard their peers as not only their ancestors but as enigmatic legends, while dismissing them as "energon guzzlers" due to their relative size.
- Compounding this, nearly everyone who eventually ended up in the Beast Wars was present at the end of the Great War, with some playing rather prominent roles during the war's end:
- Beast Wars Megatron seizes a role of authority following Galvatron's demise, bossing Predaking around.
- Tigatron and Airazor are incredibly important Autobots, to the point that Prowl says that Tigatron is "respected by all sides for his desire for peace," sending him as an emissary to the Decepticons due to his widespread reputation. Apparently nobody recognized this critical historical figure when he was reborn later on Earth.
- Protoforms are no longer new members of Optimus Primal's exploration team in stasis for the journey to other planets. Stasis pods are now life support vessels for Autobots and Decepticons who were critically damaged by transmatter the Tripredacus Council members weaponized from Unicron, with "protoform" now describing a quantum state of being suspended between dimensions and realities. Optimus Primal takes possession of some of these stasis pods, stating that he'll "do what we can for them," implying that he'll carry these guys around in his ship for the following 300 years.
- This also indicates that all the Decepticons who got protoformed were somehow converted to Maximals, since show-Predacons are Maximal protoforms with a Predacon shell program installed.
- Also, this apparently means the blank, sparkless protoforms the Axalon carried are basically corpses, we guess? Which means that in season two of the show and beyond, Optimus Primal is wearing someone's skin!
- Airazor is in one of these stasis pods (labeled "Airazor") and Tigatron is not, which makes the events of "Dawn of Future's Past" pretty implausible.
- It is implied that Generation 1 Inferno becomes Beast Wars Inferno. He is hit by transmatter and loaded up onto the Axalon in a stasis pod labeled "Inferno." However, the author stated at BotCon 2016 that this is not necessarily a fact as it was delierately left open
to be ignoredto reader interpretation. - Speaking of labeled pods, the pods in the show weren't labeled with who was inside them, aside from the obvious exception of Protoform X.
- In "The Agenda (Part 1)," the Tripredacus Council talk about having "worked secretly towards the day where we might rise up and take what is rightfully ours", "ever since the Autobots defeated our Decepticon ancestors," but we learn in this story that the Tripredacus Council WERE those Decepticon ancestors and that they defeated themselves, on purpose!
- Pre-beast forms of Air Hammer and Blackarachnia are seen walking around.
- The death of Predaking, a being composed of black, yellow, and red mammals and birds, is commemorated with... a purple insect face?
- The profile card for the "Dawn of Future's Past" version of Generation 1 Razorclaw says that after the defeat of the Decepticons in the Great War, he led the nascent Predacon faction against the Autobots until the Tripredacus Council seemingly assassinated him. In addition, Divebomb himself appears alive in "Dawn of Future's Past", and the profile card for "Dawn of Future's Past" Laserbeak says that Divebomb recruited Ravage to the Predacons. Not how it plays out here, where Razorclaw's entire team is knocked off by Predacus, who includes Ravage, in the final battle of the Great War.
Other trivia
- This book was produced by IDW Publishing instead of Fun Publications.
Covers
- BotCon Edition:
- Diamond Edition:

