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Now that things have cooled down, most of this vitriol seems unwarranted... though the last error definitely needs to stay.
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==Notes==
==Notes==
*For a comic whose sole purpose seems to be setting up an origin for a universe, it certainly does a bad job of it.
*The scene shown in this comic follows on from Megatron's speech in "[[The Agenda (Part III)|The Agenda]]" about the Predacons being "slaves" to "archaic energon guzzlers"... which magnificently evokes the ''Beast Wars: Uprising universe''. In a bit of dramatic irony, it seems that Megatron - by killing Optimus Prime - ends up sealing Cybertron's fate as becoming what he described.
*When this comic was first proposed, Jesse Wittenrich appreciated the irony of how Megatron's speech in "[[The Agenda (Part III)|The Agenda]]" about "archaic energon guzzlers" could be describing the ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' universe.<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/131659-tcc-magazine-70-arriving/?p=3311705 Post at The Allspark]</ref> However, the comic itself does not include this bit of dialog.
 
*[[Jim Sorenson]], who did not write this comic but did write almost everything else about the Beast Wars: Uprising universe, has stated that he sees killing Optimus Prime as spinning out hundreds of new universes, a change reverberating forwards and backwards in time due to various time loops. Thus, the specific universe(s) where Beast Wars: Uprising takes place may or may not have Optimus waking up in 1984. <ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/131659-tcc-magazine-70-arriving/?p=3341502 Post by Jim S on the Allspark]</ref>
===Contentious continuity===
**Basically, he all but says that we can feel free to ignore this steaming pile, except for thematic purposes. <ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/131659-tcc-magazine-70-arriving/?p=3341759 Post by Jim S on the Allspark]</ref>
*As a lot of readers observed when this comic first came out, the idea of a universe that diverges with the deaths of Optimus Prime and Megatron on the arc doesn't really line up with the world shown in prior ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' stories:
**Optimus Prime and Megatron were previously mentioned in "[[Broken Windshields]]" in the same breath with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], which is somewhat awkward if they died millions of years before the others.
**More glaringly, "[[Micro-Aggressions]]" made "[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], born of Megatron" a major player in the universe's history during the early 21st century; while it's ''possible'' that Unicron used a 4-million-year-old corpse to make his herald, that doesn't particularly read as the original intent.
*[[Jim Sorenson]], author of the ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' text stories, confirmed that this backstory was not in place when he wrote the previous stories.<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/131659-tcc-magazine-70-arriving/?p=3341759 Post by Jim S on the Allspark]</ref> However, he proposed that the killing of Optimus Prime could have spun out hundreds of new universes, with changes going forwards and backwards in time due to various time loops; as such, [[Authorial intent|his interpretation]] is that this comic doesn't necessarily tie ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' stories to a universe where Optimus and Megatron are dead. <ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/131659-tcc-magazine-70-arriving/?p=3341502 Post by Jim S on the Allspark]</ref>


===Errors===
===Errors===
*From what we know of the ''Uprising'' universe, the original [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] between the Autobots and the Decepticons played out more or less like the conflict we saw described in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Sunbow cartoon]] and [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comic]] (though more destructively); "[[Micro-Aggressions]]" mentions specific events such as the creation of [[TORQ III]] while "[[Head Games]]" describes [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] having bonded with [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] during the conflict on [[Nebulos]]. Exactly how any of this works with one or both faction leaders ''dead''—an event which should logically have some major repercussions down the line—is anyone's guess.
*Optimus Prime and Megatron were previously mentioned in "[[Broken Windshields]]" in the same breath with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. It's possible that they died millions of years before the others, but this is still incredibly awkward.
*Most glaringly, "[[Micro-Aggressions]]" further makes [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], born from Megatron, a major player in the universe's history during the early 21st century. Again, it's conceivable, albeit bizarre, that Unicron used a 4 million year old corpse to make his herald. Blackarachnia does note that she's not sure she can destroy Megatron, giving us a little wiggle room... but this begs the question why the comic didn't just end with Optimus getting shot.
*Someone made a screen capture comic and published it non-ironically.
*Someone made a screen capture comic and published it non-ironically.


Revision as of 13:14, 26 September 2016

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"A Change to the Agenda"
Publisher Transformers Collectors' Club
Published in Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club #70
Continuity Beast Wars: Uprising
Chronology 4 million years ago
Page count 2pp

Megatron successfully kills Optimus Prime. This turns out to be a bad idea.

Synopsis

Following his attack on the slumbering Optimus Prime, Megatron gloats to the Maximals about their impending erasure from history. Blackarachnia responds by activating Teletraan 1, flinging him away from the ship... but not far enough, as in another timeline. This allows Megatron to fire on Optimus Prime again while the Maximals try to save him. The Maximals begin to fade out, but Blackarachnia has a desperate gambit... using her cyber-venom on the original Megatron. Thus is the stage set for the eventual reign of the Builders of Cybertron and the uprising against it.

(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)

Maximals and Autobots Predacons and Decepticons

Notes

  • The scene shown in this comic follows on from Megatron's speech in "The Agenda" about the Predacons being "slaves" to "archaic energon guzzlers"... which magnificently evokes the Beast Wars: Uprising universe. In a bit of dramatic irony, it seems that Megatron - by killing Optimus Prime - ends up sealing Cybertron's fate as becoming what he described.

Contentious continuity

  • As a lot of readers observed when this comic first came out, the idea of a universe that diverges with the deaths of Optimus Prime and Megatron on the arc doesn't really line up with the world shown in prior Beast Wars: Uprising stories:
    • Optimus Prime and Megatron were previously mentioned in "Broken Windshields" in the same breath with Bumblebee, Prowl, Blaster, Starscream, Shockwave, and Soundwave, which is somewhat awkward if they died millions of years before the others.
    • More glaringly, "Micro-Aggressions" made "Galvatron, born of Megatron" a major player in the universe's history during the early 21st century; while it's possible that Unicron used a 4-million-year-old corpse to make his herald, that doesn't particularly read as the original intent.
  • Jim Sorenson, author of the Beast Wars: Uprising text stories, confirmed that this backstory was not in place when he wrote the previous stories.[1] However, he proposed that the killing of Optimus Prime could have spun out hundreds of new universes, with changes going forwards and backwards in time due to various time loops; as such, his interpretation is that this comic doesn't necessarily tie Beast Wars: Uprising stories to a universe where Optimus and Megatron are dead. [2]

Errors

  • Someone made a screen capture comic and published it non-ironically.

References

  1. ↑ Post by Jim S on the Allspark
  2. ↑ Post by Jim S on the Allspark
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