Talk:Hot Rod (DOTM)

This page should be deleted, the Rodimus included with the Two-Pack was intended to be Hot Rod as he appeared in Spotlight: Hot Rod.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SupremeCommander85 (talk • contribs).

It would be awesome if you had any kind of evidence whatsoever to back this up, especially since it doesn't look anything like Hot Rod in Spotlight: Hot Rod. -LV, not logged in

Yeah, considering DOTM Rodimus features a color palette never seen on a Hot Rod/Rodimus before, you better have some evidence to back that claim up. --Detour 10:25, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

This page should exist just like another G1-ish but actually Movie character (Brawl (ROTF)) does. (Unless Hasbro changes it someday.) --TX55^TALK 10:45, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

That's not even the same situation, since Universe and ROTF Brawls are identical, while this DOTM Rodimus sports a brand-new color scheme that's unlike any deco any Hot Rods/Rodimuses have ever sported. --Detour 10:54, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Concept art

Don't know if unused concept art is mainpic worthy. (Carrion)

Aren't several unused WfC/FoC concept images currently being used as mainpics? - SanityOrMadness 18:30, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

I think isn't the more pertinent question: is this art actually intended to be Hot Rod (and not an early Dino or something). I mean, we've seen DOTM Shockwave concepts labelled Blitzwing. Jalaguy 18:45, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Well, the next page has a Shockwave take labelled as Shockwave, along with a slightly different Hot Rod take and a Galvatron. - SanityOrMadness 18:53, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

We're not making raw concept art the mainpic for the character that doesn't exist outside of being a toy that's not based on that concept art and quite possibly was created without that concept art in consideration. --M Sipher 19:27, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

However, four years later, I am totally down with promoting the FTF picture to mainpic status. It's a lot nicer than the current one and we so rarely have good non-movie/non-concept art shots of movie characters to go up there. -LV (talk) 23:30, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

Title

Permission to change it to Hot Rod (TLK)?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skywarp Prime (talk • contribs).

No. The character had a toy in the Dark of the Moon toyline first, so he's denoted as "DOTM". -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2019 (EDT)

Hot Rod (TLK) already redirects here. If someone types that in it will bring them here anyways. --Khajidha (talk) 13:40, 17 June 2019 (EDT)

Alright. Skywarp Prime (talk) 15:49, 17 June 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime

What about making a page for DOTM Hot Rod and making this one for TLK Hot Rod? They aren't really the same character. Skywarp Prime (talk) 09:27, 8 July 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime

No. There's no reason to split them up. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 09:32, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

What possible benefit could there be to splitting them? As I mentioned before anyone looking for "Hot Rod (TLK)" is already brought here. Your proposal just leaves us with a tiny little stump of a page for the DOTM toy that will basically never grow and will just sit around doing nothing. Minimize therbligs. Whether DOTM or TLK its all in the movie continuity family. Unless they are demonstrably separate (ie shown at the same time as separate characters) there's no reason to split them. --Khajidha (talk) 10:32, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

That's the trouble with grouping people by names instead of characters. TLK Hot Rod isn't based on G1 Hot Rod in any way. He's a separate character. Even though separating DOTM and TLK would leave a little stump for the DOTM Hot Rod, it's the logical thing to do. And yet, why do I get the feeling that people on this wiki will just switch it back every time someone makes the correction? King Kid (talk) 18:23, 4 April 2020 (EDT)

Exactly what part of his character are you seeing as different? He's a young (contemporary of Bumblebee) Autobot, he's friends with the Witwiccans (Witwickys and their associates), and does stunt driving through the city. That sounds like the young, turbo-revving Autobot who was best friends with Daniel Witwicky to me. And Hasbro even decoed one of his toys with the G1 character's chest deco. --Khajidha (talk) 19:24, 4 April 2020 (EDT)

Move

I find that having this article be named after such an obscure and irrelevant toy over the much more prominent movie Hot Rod is very user unfriendly and clunky. The page should have a TLK disambig as this is how 99% of the userbase is gonna search for the article and it's the mayority of the page's content anyways. MrRald (talk) 14:51, 4 December 2022 (EST)

Which the existing redirect takes care of. --Khajidha (talk) 16:06, 4 December 2022 (EST)

Disambigs aren't there to aid search, they're there to keep characters with the same name separate. If people are searching for a character, there is a disambiguation page they can check. --abates (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2022 (EST)

The page should just be at TLK to begin with, there is zero reason a single Legends class figure should take any kind of prominence over the actual film appearance. McBaggins (talk) 16:41, 4 December 2022 (EST)

The reason is that the DOTM tag is consistent with our naming conventions. The TLK one isn't. That's all the reason we need. --Khajidha (talk) 20:12, 4 December 2022 (EST)

"Because we've always done it this way" ain't exactly a convincing argument. McBaggins (talk) 11:00, 5 December 2022 (EST)

No one has put forward an argument as to why we should change the criteria, so the fact that the criteria say to do it this way is enough. "I don't like the criteria" is not a reason to change them. --Khajidha (talk) 12:08, 5 December 2022 (EST)

Because a Legends class figure with absolutely zero connection to the film character aside from the name has zero business being what dictates what the disambig should be, and I said as much earlier. McBaggins (talk) 13:51, 5 December 2022 (EST)

As I said, your dislike of the way we do things is not a convincing argument either. --Khajidha (talk) 14:22, 5 December 2022 (EST)

We've already moved several characters from (WFC) to (Prime) and many from (BWU) to (IDW) and (G1) for the sake of user accessibility, there's plenty of precedent to fall back on. DOTM Hot Rod is not a character who appeared in media. It's a G1 toy sold with DOTM branding in a multipack and a single namedrop in the BotCon Megatron bio. MrRald (talk) 14:47, 5 December 2022 (EST)