Talk:Beast Wars timeline

Depth Charge

If we're specifically mentioning Ravage's journey from the future to the past, we should include Depth Charge's similar trip as well. JW 16:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

That's just because it still waits to be added. Ha ha ;D --TX55 16:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Fun Publications and 3H Comics

What make them any more canon than the IDW comics? I understand that they tie into Beast Wars, but so does the IDW Comics. I also understand that IDW doesn't connect to the Fun and 3H comics..but I don't see them as any more canon than the IDW Comics. Thus, I propose a split. (Its difficult to tell which is Beast Wars the Cartoon and which parts are Comic only stuff anyways, so it'd also help to show others which is from which canon.) I'm surprised it took until now for someone to suggest it really.--Chipmonk328

The comic stuff should be put in italics like the Transformers Animated timeline. Other than that, I don't think a split is necessary. The IDW comics are canon, but brings elements from Japanese fiction into English continuity, so the backstory is a little different than the English Beast Era continuity that is recorded here. - Starfield 17:27, 22 December 2009 (EST)

This page is a "Beast Era timeline." The 3H/FP material covers Beast Machines and Universe, which are so far ignored by IDW's material. IDW's stuff would be a "Beast Wars timeline" only. EDIT: Yeah, that's exactly what we do. Note that the IDW stuff is at Beast Wars timeline (IDW), not "Beast Era." --ItsWalky 17:42, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Alright, well, then is anyone going it italicize the comic parts or something? As it stands, its hard to tell which is from Comics and which is from the Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) show.--Chipmonk328

Thanks for the changes..but I feel my terminology, while corrected..I have to ask again because, I still don't understand how IDW is any less canon to the Beast Era than Fun or 3H. Sure they don't work with each other, but to me, putting those comics with the Cartoon over IDW seems like someones idea of Personal_canon, which doesn't constitute being included in my opinion.EDIT: Forgive the edit, just felt I should space apart from my other post better, as I didn't notice it when I first hit preview.--Chipmonk328

Okay. Two questions: 1. No one answered my last statement. How is it not Personal Canon to say they are any more canon than IDW. Yes, it includes things from the Japanese series, and the others do not. However, they are just as in canon with the Cartoons as 3H and Fun, so whose to say which one is more canon than the other? 2.Is there any way to purchase any of the Universe and Wreckers Comics? I'd like to buy them if at all possible..Chipmonk328

Your question was answered. The IDW comics do not portray the same events as other Beast-era media. They completely omit BM and completely contradict 3H--there is no way for any one timeline to contain all the events of the 3H and IDW comics because they plainly do not exist in the same timeline. This is not "personal canon," just explain Tripredacus Agent if they're all the same story. We don't have a "G1" timeline including every single story from every medium because it would be impossible; we break them down by continuity, thus "G1 cartoon" and "IDW G1", etc. The main Beast timeline came first and so it gets the main article; IDW came later and contradicts it, so it gets spun off. --Thylacine 2000 16:28, 2 January 2010 (EST)

What was answered was why IDW and 3H+fun could not go together. What I don't understand is how IDW contradicts the Beast Era Cartoons in any way, which is the ONLY way 3H and fun could be more canon than IDW (Unless Hasbro said it themselves or something of course)...and now you sat it doesn't include Beast Machines? True, it doesn't, but whose to say its just set before it. Though I kinda see now what you're saying. So let me see if I got this straight.

IDW only covers the Beast Wars part of the Beast Era, and includes the Japanese Cartoon in its own wierd way...so even though it doesn't contradict the American Cartoons in any way (thus making it possibly canon), its not canon because 3H and Fun can go together, and go with the Beast Era Cartoon only just as much as IDW's, but doesn't include the Japanese Cartoon in any way, and DOES include Beast Machines, thus its automatically made canon....wieeerd. But I'm not so sure that constitutes it being canon..it just says it has more content than IDW, has gotten to Beast Machines, contradicts the other comics but not the american cartoon in any way, and doesn't include the Japanese Canon in any way..that doesn't automatically make one more canon than the other. All it means is they don't go TOGETHER, not that one is canon and one is not. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude or a hardass but, I still just don't see it. Is there something I'm missing here?--Chipmonk328

Waspinator

Since when did Waspinator fly back to Cybertron from past-Earth with the Wreckers? I thought that entire episode was never explained more than "took forever!". --Thylacine 2000 17:09, 22 December 2009 (EST)

That entry is properly storylinked, so I'm not sure what your question is about. --ItsWalky 17:39, 22 December 2009 (EST)

I'm confused too - the entry, describing Apelinq and company's return to Cybertron, is storylinked to Apelinq's War Journals, but the journals end with Omega Point, with no coverage of said return. Chris McFeely 20:11, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Ah, there's another one? I read the one that was linked to Primeval Dawn. --ItsWalky 20:33, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Oh, yeah, I see it now, further up the timeline... so I take it that was one of those things that would have happened if the comic was finished, but wasn't in any of the actual published stuff? Not read the BotCon stuff... - Chris McFeely 20:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Yeah, we should add a note that it was planned and not published. (I believe the only place on the wiki where this is documented completely is on Primal Prime's page. I never got around to copypasting that information to other pages. Definitely something to put on my TO DO list as I've been filling in this Universe stuff lately.) --ItsWalky 20:52, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Yeah, none of the Primeval Dawn pages mention Waspinator at all. --Thylacine 2000 21:21, 22 December 2009 (EST)