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# The "continuity errors" list a contradiction in the fiction (ha ha) when Ratchet states the ''Exodus'' story wherein Optimus and Megatron split before the war, where "Darkness Rising" states that they fought alongside each other for a time before the schism. Could "Darkness Rising" not have meant that they were fighting a war of words against ''oppression'' together, rather than fighting an actual war with weapons? | # The "continuity errors" list a contradiction in the fiction (ha ha) when Ratchet states the ''Exodus'' story wherein Optimus and Megatron split before the war, where "Darkness Rising" states that they fought alongside each other for a time before the schism. Could "Darkness Rising" not have meant that they were fighting a war of words against ''oppression'' together, rather than fighting an actual war with weapons? | ||
# Whoever inserted the ''Prince of Egypt'' caption: You are awesome. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 00:43, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | # Whoever inserted the ''Prince of Egypt'' caption: You are awesome. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 00:43, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
I agree that Ratchet's memory might not be faulty/there is a continuity error here. Megatron could of been participating in false flag terror against the High Council. In fact according to Ratchet, Megatron's solution was violence, but Orion Pax's was peace. I think it is stipulated somewhere in the novels or War for Cybertron that Megatron was playing both sides of the fence for his own ambition. So Ratchet was right. When they spoke before the High Council, Megatron and Optimus were allies against an insurgent threat created by Megatron to secure power. The Council either saw through Megatron's plans or were truly inspired by Orion Pax to deem Orion worthy of being the next Prime. | |||
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag] | |||
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As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? daughter-of-Myou 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
- Yes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.51.184.13 (talk • contribs).
Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.117.9.216 (talk • contribs).
- I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --abates 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
- It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
- Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --abates 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
- Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
- Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --abates 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? daughter-of-Myou 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
When Optimus Prime opened the Matrix of Leadership, it looks as though it contains/contained a crystal shard of some kind. Should this be mentioned here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ultra Magnotron (talk • contribs).
Should it be mentioned that Megatronus has red armor in place of purple in the flashhbacks? TFfan1 8:02 October 15 2011 (EDT)
I think that may be a result of the "lighting" of the flashbacks, but it's kinda hard to tell.--Roni134730 00:00, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
Should it be in mentioned in the notes that when the earthquake starts and Rachet moves to protect the humans that June and Fowler are behind the computer, but when the earthquake stops June and Fowler are beside the children?
- Time elapsed between the shots; who's to say they didn't immediately run to the cover Ratchet provided just as the scene switched? -- Boy Blunderous 16:05, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
That does make sense. Thanks. I watched the episode again and saw that`s what could have happened.
Two things:
- The "continuity errors" list a contradiction in the fiction (ha ha) when Ratchet states the Exodus story wherein Optimus and Megatron split before the war, where "Darkness Rising" states that they fought alongside each other for a time before the schism. Could "Darkness Rising" not have meant that they were fighting a war of words against oppression together, rather than fighting an actual war with weapons?
- Whoever inserted the Prince of Egypt caption: You are awesome. - ¡Usa El Queso! Complain here 00:43, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
I agree that Ratchet's memory might not be faulty/there is a continuity error here. Megatron could of been participating in false flag terror against the High Council. In fact according to Ratchet, Megatron's solution was violence, but Orion Pax's was peace. I think it is stipulated somewhere in the novels or War for Cybertron that Megatron was playing both sides of the fence for his own ambition. So Ratchet was right. When they spoke before the High Council, Megatron and Optimus were allies against an insurgent threat created by Megatron to secure power. The Council either saw through Megatron's plans or were truly inspired by Orion Pax to deem Orion worthy of being the next Prime. [1]

