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{{disambig2|the generic term|the actual Solar-related system|Solar System}}
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[[Image:CybertronBW Transwarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.]]
[[Image:CybertronBW Transwarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.]]
A '''solar system''' (more properly, '''star system''', '''stellar system''', or '''planetary system''') is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more planets and various other cosmic detritus.   
A '''star system''' (also referred to as '''planetary system''', '''solar system''', or '''stellar system''') is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more planets and various other cosmic detritus.   


Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a [[Space bridge|space bridge]].   
Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a [[Space bridge|space bridge]].   


==Fiction==
==Fiction==
Notable solar systems in Transformers fiction include:
Notable star systems in Transformers fiction include:
* The [[Solar System]], dominated by the [[Sun]], appears in almost every Transformers story.


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===Generation 1===
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* The [[Alpha Centauri]] system was the home system of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in Marvel comics continuity, before it was knocked out of orbit.
* The [[Solar System]], dominated by the [[Sun]], appears in almost every Transformers story. Its known orbital bodies include:
*The [[Ardurian System]], home to [[Arduria]].
** [[Mercury]]
* The [[Hadeen System|Cybertronian System]], home to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in IDW continuity.
** [[Venus (planet)|Venus]]
*The [[Eigerson-48 System]], home to [[Mumu-Obscura]].
** [[Earth]], and its moon, the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]].
*[[Epsilon Ariadne]], where [[Dirk Manus]] hails from.
** [[Mars (planet)|Mars]]
*The [[MQ System]], home to several planets.
** Various asteroids, including [[Ceres]] (technically a dwarf planet), [[Juno]], and [[Pallas]]<ref>[[Duel on the Asteroid]]</ref>
*The [[Nalva System]], home to [[Arcadroid]]s.
** [[Jupiter]], and its moon [[Io]]
*The [[Klovian System]], home to [[Nebulos]].
** [[Saturn]], and its moon [[Titan (moon)|Titan]]
*The [[Kol System]], home to [[Varas Centralus]] and [[Clemency]].
** [[Uranus]]
*The [[Lenocinium Velnero System]], home to [[LV-117]] and [[LV-118]].
** Neptune <ref>Featured, but not named in [[The Probe]].</ref>
* The Paradius system, which is named after its one star [[Paradius]]. It is home to various populated planets, the only one which name is known being [[Zel Samine]].
** [[Pluto]]
*The [[Rigel System]], home to [[Rigel III]].
 
*The [[Salvvatan System]], home to [[Salvvatan VI]] and [[Salvvatan VIII]].
===Marvel Comics===
* The [[Alpha Centauri]] system was the home system of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], before it was knocked out of orbit.
* The Rigel system, including the planet [[Rigel III]].
* An unnamed system where the [[Matrix Quest]] took place, home to the following planets:
** [[Cheyne]]
** [[Pz-Zazz]]
** [[Pequod]]
** [[Cameron]], and its barren moon [[VsQs]]


===''Beast Wars'' cartoon===
====Beast Era====
[[Image:CybertronBW SolarSystem.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
[[Image:CybertronBW SolarSystem.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
* An unnamed system containing the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Cybertron's irregular orbit, seen in "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", indicates that it may have been moved into this solar system artificially.
* An unnamed system containing the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Cybertron's irregular orbit, seen in "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", indicates that it may have been moved into this star system artificially.
*The clustered planetary system [[Georgian]].
*The [[Vurau System]].
*The [[Yurina System]], home to [[Solid]].


===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
===''Transformers'' (2007)===
* The Paradius system, which is named after its one star [[Paradius]]. It is home to various populated planets, the only one which name is known being [[Zel Samine]].
*The [[Charii system]].


===IDW Comics===
===''Animated''===
* The Lambda Scorpii system, also home to the planet Cybertron.
*The [[Archa system]], home to [[Archa Seven]].
* The [[Kol System]], home to the planets [[Varas Centralus]] and [[Clemency]].
*The [[Gpii System]], where one can find [[Trobulum]].
* The [[Eigerson-48 System]], home to the planet [[Mumu-Obscura]].
*The [[Hadeen System]], home to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].
*The [[Quartex system]], home to [[Quartex (planet)|Quartex]].


===''Transformers'' (2007)===
===''Prime''===
* The [[Charii system]]
*The [[Dromedon System]].
 
===''Transformers Animated''===
* The [[Hadeen System]]
* The [[Quartex system]].


==Those poor, confused writers==
==Those poor, confused writers==
===Galaxy ≠ Star system===
===Galaxy ≠ star system===
A star system should not be confused with a ''galaxy'', which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems.  A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own [[Milky Way]] Galaxy containing several hundred ''billion'' stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.
A star system should not be confused with a ''galaxy'', which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems.  A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own [[Milky Way]] Galaxy containing several hundred ''billion'' stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.


Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. (Note that this is [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale hardly a phenomenon limited to ''Transformers'' writers].) Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not ''inconceivable'' that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best ([[Star Wars (franchise)|a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures]]) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere.  Cartoon animation, for example, almost ''never'' supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.
Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. (Note that this is [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale hardly a phenomenon limited to ''Transformers'' writers].) Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not ''inconceivable'' that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best ([[Star Wars (franchise)|a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures]]) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere.  Cartoon animation, for example, almost ''never'' supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.


Notable examples of galaxy/solar system confusion include:
Notable examples of galaxy/star system confusion include:


* [[Countdown (G1)|''Generation 1'' Countdown]]'s [[bio]], which says his [[Rocket Base|rocket base]] can use gravity to "slingshot across entire galaxies in seconds".
* [[Countdown (G1)|''Generation 1'' Countdown]]'s [[bio]], which says his [[Rocket Base|rocket base]] can use gravity to "slingshot across entire galaxies in seconds".
* "[[The Test (issue)|The Test]]", wherein [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] is delighted to find [[energon]] "just inside our galaxy", as if that meant it was nearby.
* "[[The Test (issue)|The Test]]", wherein [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] is delighted to find [[energon]] "just inside our galaxy", as if that meant it was nearby.
* "[[Primal Fear!]]", in which the [[Decepticon]] [[Warworld]] is said to be operating in "another galaxy".
* "[[Primal Fear!]]", in which the [[Decepticon]] [[Warworld]] is said to be operating in "another galaxy".
* The ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' episode "[[The Return of Demolishor]]" features [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] narrating, "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system." The dialogue is less confused in the original ''Superlink'' version, and may be more of a dubbing artifact than pure authorial error ("''from'' the outer reaches of the solar system", or switching the two terms around, would both make a lot more sense.)
* The ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' episode "[[The Return of Demolishor]]" features [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] narrating, "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the Solar System." The dialogue is less confused in the original ''Superlink'' version, and may be more of a dubbing artifact than pure authorial error ("''from'' the outer reaches of the Solar System", or switching the two terms around, would both make a lot more sense.)
* [[Movie Prequel issue 2|''Movie Prequel'' #2]], as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] describes searching "countless solar spans, through myriad galaxies, nebulae and systems".
* [[Movie Prequel issue 2|''Movie Prequel'' #2]], as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] describes searching "countless solar spans, through myriad galaxies, nebulae and systems".
* ''[[Transformers: Beginnings (Movie)|Transformers: Beginnings]]'': In a voiceover monologue not taken from the [[Movie Prequel issue 2|comic version]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] announces his arrival in the [[Milky Way]] galaxy, despite [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] opening narration for the [[Transformers (film)|movie]], where he stated that the [[Autobot|Autobots]] "scattered across the galaxy", thus implying that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is located ''within'' the Milky Way galaxy.
* ''[[Transformers: Beginnings (Movie)|Transformers: Beginnings]]'': In a voiceover monologue not taken from the [[Movie Prequel issue 2|comic version]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] announces his arrival in the [[Milky Way]] galaxy, despite [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] opening narration for the [[Transformers (film)|movie]], where he stated that the [[Autobot|Autobots]] "scattered across the galaxy", thus implying that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is located ''within'' the Milky Way galaxy.
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Remarkably, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy.  The episode "[[Roll for It]]" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."
Remarkably, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy.  The episode "[[Roll for It]]" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."


===Galaxy ≠ Universe===
===Galaxy ≠ universe===
On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes ''billions of galaxies'', each containing ''billions of stars'', the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:
On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes ''billions of galaxies'', each containing ''billions of stars'', the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:


* In "[[Changing Gears]]", it's stated that the exploding [[Sun]] could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.
* In "[[Changing Gears]]", it's stated that the exploding [[Sun]] could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.


* In "[[The Return of Demolishor]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] says that by using the [[Energon grid|energon grid]], they "run the risk of destroying the entire universe".  Though the characters ''are'' in [[Alpha Q's universe|a new, fledgling universe]] where this might make some slight amount of sense, the line is in fact a dubbing error.
* In "[[The Return of Demolishor]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] says that by using the [[energon grid]], they "run the risk of destroying the entire universe".  Though the characters ''are'' in [[Alpha Q's universe|a new, fledgling universe]] where this might make some slight amount of sense, the line is in fact a dubbing error.


* Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]" — "I ''will'' rule the universe, even if I am the only one ''left'' in the universe!"  That's a ''lot'' of conquering to do there, buddy!
* Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]" — "I ''will'' rule the universe, even if I am the only one ''left'' in the universe!"  That's a ''lot'' of conquering to do there, buddy!
==Notes==
*In [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=705 an interview], [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the IDW version of Cybertron orbited the "star" [[Lambda Scorpii|Shaula]]. This piece of information has not made it into any media, and the system is only referred to as the "Cybertronian System" in "[[Syndromica (1)]]".


==References==
==References==

Revision as of 12:31, 25 May 2013

"Solar system" redirects here. For the actual Solar-related system, see Solar System.
To get to "another galaxy", you've got to go past a few hundred billion of these.

A star system (also referred to as planetary system, solar system, or stellar system) is a grouping of one or more stars, commonly orbited by one or more planets and various other cosmic detritus.

Transformers typically travel to different star systems in the course of their adventures. As star systems are generally several light years apart, this requires some sort of faster-than-light propulsion, or an instantaneous gateway system of some kind, such as a space bridge.

Fiction

Notable star systems in Transformers fiction include:

  • The Solar System, dominated by the Sun, appears in almost every Transformers story.

Generation 1

Beast Era

Transformers (2007)

Animated

Prime

Those poor, confused writers

Galaxy ≠ star system

A star system should not be confused with a galaxy, which is a massive grouping of millions of star systems. A single galaxy is unfathomably huge, with our own Milky Way Galaxy containing several hundred billion stars. The distances between galaxies are several orders of magnitude greater than the distances between the star systems they contain.

Unfortunately, in Transformers fiction, "galaxy" is frequently used in places where "star system" makes a lot more sense, or at least is not as jarring. (Note that this is hardly a phenomenon limited to Transformers writers.) Given that all interstellar travel is based on fictional technologies, it's not inconceivable that characters might actually come from or travel to other galaxies. But the notion seems an unnecessary complication at best (a single galaxy is a more-than-ample playground for fictional adventures) and often outright contradicts information given elsewhere. Cartoon animation, for example, almost never supports the idea that characters actually leave the Milky Way galaxy.

Notable examples of galaxy/star system confusion include:

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at nine hundred miles an hour...

Remarkably, the Generation 1 cartoon series seems to portray Cybertron consistently as being originally located outside our galaxy. The episode "Roll for It" shows Cybertron outside of a spiral galaxy (though it is also shown against a field of stars, instead of the empty black void that should be there if it's located in inter-galactic space). The episode later shows a rather confusing visual of the space bridge energy beam emanating from an empty point in space alongside a galaxy, but not going into the galaxy. Later, in "The Ultimate Doom", Optimus Prime comments that the pylons of the Decepticons' Cybertron-centered space bridge "form a pyramid, with the apex beyond this galaxy."

Galaxy ≠ universe

On more rare occasions, "universe" is used in place of "galaxy" or even "solar system", to even more ridiculous effect. Since the universe includes billions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars, the following usages of "universe" seem painfully misworded:

  • In "Changing Gears", it's stated that the exploding Sun could destroy the universe. Suns have exploded on a pretty regular basis for billions of years, and so far, the universe is still ticking away.
  • Various Decepticons have made the claim that they plan to rule not merely the galaxy but rather the universe, such as Starscream in "The Revenge of Bruticus" — "I will rule the universe, even if I am the only one left in the universe!" That's a lot of conquering to do there, buddy!

Notes

  • In an interview, Simon Furman claimed that the IDW version of Cybertron orbited the "star" Shaula. This piece of information has not made it into any media, and the system is only referred to as the "Cybertronian System" in "Syndromica (1)".

References