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As far as the FIRRIB debate goes, the Japanese dub and show bible came much, much later.
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'''FIBRIR''' stands for "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is blue, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is red". Likewise, '''RIBFIR''' means "Rumble is blue, Frenzy is red".  (The forms FIRRIB and RIRFIB are also known.)
'''FIBRIR''' stands for "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is blue, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is red". Likewise, '''RIBFIR''' means "Rumble is blue, Frenzy is red".  (The forms FIRRIB and RIRFIB are also known.)


The entire debate exists because "RIBFIR" in the American [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]], but "FIBRIR" in the toyline, comics, the Japanese G1 dub (which simply switched who was who), and even the US cartoon bible.
The entire debate exists because "RIBFIR" in the American [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]], but "FIBRIR" in the toyline and Marvel comics.  For years, fans have argued vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which one is "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or the comic.
 
Of note, the Japanese G1 dub of the cartoon brought it into line with the toy colors, simply by switching who was who.  And rather inexplicably, the US cartoon bible lists FIBRIR, despite what was consistently shown in the show.
 
As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:


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Revision as of 19:25, 14 February 2008

Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.

FIBRIR stands for "Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red". Likewise, RIBFIR means "Rumble is blue, Frenzy is red". (The forms FIRRIB and RIRFIB are also known.)

The entire debate exists because "RIBFIR" in the American G1 cartoon, but "FIBRIR" in the toyline and Marvel comics. For years, fans have argued vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which one is "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or the comic.

Of note, the Japanese G1 dub of the cartoon brought it into line with the toy colors, simply by switching who was who. And rather inexplicably, the US cartoon bible lists FIBRIR, despite what was consistently shown in the show.

As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:

Frenzy Rumble
Original toys Blue Red
Marvel comics Blue Red
US cartoon Red Blue
Japanese cartoon Blue Red
Generation 2 toys Purple Red and white (Unreleased)
Dreamwave comics Blue Red
Devil's Due comics Red Blue
Alternators toys None Red

Items are listed in release order. I.e., the original toys came first.


It is generally agreed that pointing out Rumble was actually kinda purple in the original cartoon is not helpful.