User talk:Escargon

Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. Gren is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. Mimi 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren's never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn't have an English name. Those examples don't work at all. Escargon 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, "Alexa"). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I've shown with my examples.

And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! Mimi 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character might be based off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to Alexis in the notes/Stevo 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Eh. Whatever, I don't even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I'm not the best one to ask about it. Escargon 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.User:MetroPlex71

Please don't say that being a woman is an insult. --ItsWalky 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

For clarification, I think Supernova222 was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --Inkblot 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

I wasn't trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn't sure if it was correct or not. Escargon 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) Escargon 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

You need to settle down just a little bit. --M Sipher 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.Escargon 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - SoundWave 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. Escargon 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Thanks. - SoundWave 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It's getting a little bit fishy....User:MetroPlex71

Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - Bumblejumper 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)

You're saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. Escargon 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn't want it on there I won't add it again, okay? :) - Bumblejumper 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)

No, it's not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don't add it again. Escargon 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Sorry, I won't add it again. But plz don't be so cross, I didn't know it was against the rules I'm new here. what exactly do not mean "major trouble? - Bumblejumper 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. Escargon 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Okay, it's completely understood. :) But if I say "Bank robbers stink" is that okay? (Just thought I'd better ask so I don't violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - Bumblejumper 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)

That is acceptable. And no, I don't. Escargon 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)

For the second time, chill. --M Sipher 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)

Zobovor's fake BW names on BW DVD

Thanks for reverting my edit. i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters! --Rhymus (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)

Moving pages

You realise that when you move pages, as you've been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a [[x (Kre-O)]] page, you're meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap alone shows 333 mainspace links! (There's a reason for the bolded "Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding." text!). - SanityOrMadness (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)

Prime image

Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime's appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we're sticking with the image we already had. Escargon (talk) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

That's not how it works. Escargon (talk) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

But shouldn't it be? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

No. Escargon (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Look, I didn't make the rules. You're going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. Escargon (talk) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --Detour (talk) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

The Vigilant Town

Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4

But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that's the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2

Please check the differences before reverting. Klink (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --Detour (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Eh. I hadn't seen the episode, and I'd trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. Escargon (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Tenses

Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! Jalaguy (talk) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, sorry about that. I'll remember next time! Escargon (talk) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Helloooo

Hihi, I didn't realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! Antimatter (talk) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)

Hello there! One of our admins is too, User:FortMax. Escargon (talk) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)

Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! Antimatter (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

Nice talking to you, too! Escargon (talk) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

Response

What are you specifically talking about.--8492nd (talk) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy's pages. Escargon (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Scorn's caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I'm not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn't get in the way of information, on and information based site.--8492nd (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--8492nd (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, it really shouldn't. And no, that's not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone's updated a talk page. Don't put responses to things on your talk page to other people's talk pages. Escargon (talk) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Why shouldn't it? It's the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.

And, for the most part in my experience, wiki's use the method of response I use, as it guarantee's the user get's the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.

Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--8492nd (talk) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.

And I'm not sure where you get that idea from. You're going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.

And no, I'm not. Escargon (talk) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it's not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin's are the one who are really the one's to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter's into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--8492nd (talk) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

......It's a public forum. Just because I'm not a moderator doesn't mean I shouldn't tell you that you're not doing what's right and ask you to stop. Escargon (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

And even then, why wouldn't I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn't some message board. Escargon (talk) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won't have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it's just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy's, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it's a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same "rank" as them, you don't truly have the authority to make any real demands.

Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.

As to misinterpreting the rule, it's easy to do, as not every situation fit's into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --8492nd (talk) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

TFWiki doesn't have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it's basic stuff like 'please don't remove captions/add scores of new captions'. Admins aren't always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people's throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. Jalaguy (talk) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Alright. Escargon (talk) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well how many Transformers Wiki's are their?--8492nd (talk) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

A couple. But we're the original one. Escargon (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--8492nd (talk) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, it doesn't. We've been around since 2006. We're far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. Escargon (talk) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--8492nd (talk) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In response to comment on abates page

While those are notable achivements, I've been part of much smaller wiki's and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own ideas, take them from other sources.

As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a "fly by night" user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn't stick around. I don't know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn't be anywhere near tens of thousands.

But I'd still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I'd like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--8492nd (talk) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Would you knock it off? You've already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki's. Just stop. Escargon (talk) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

I've moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not "No it doesn't" and hyperbole--8492nd (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you're still persuing it. You think that just because there's only a few TFWiki's it doesn't matter we're the best. Look at all those other wiki's. They're shit, like almost every wiki.

Stop persueing this. Escargon (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well, no I'm not. I've left that issue alone. Now I'm asking why you didn't considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn't my point when I made the comment.--8492nd (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)