User talk:Detour

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --M Sipher 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007

I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [1]

Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt

Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

Megatron joke

The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [2]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --Steve-o 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -Detour 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Revert Revert

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--Apcog 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --Detour 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--Apcog 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Treatment

Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --FFN 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Nunchakus

His name is "Michelangelo". :) --Sntint 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --Detour 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Airazor caption

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.

Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --Detour 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.

Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --Monzo 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.

... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --Monzo 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Blurr

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.KrytenKoro 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related should not be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --Detour 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.

And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)KrytenKoro 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Rabbicrater Edits

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film History of the World, Part 1. So not TOTAL nonsense.--Apcog 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --Detour 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. -hx 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the next previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--Apcog 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Real Gear hairdryer

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof. By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?Dead Metal 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC) -Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.Dead Metal 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -Derik 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

....what? --Detour 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Hi

I'm listening and I'm sorry Gyro-Robo 22:43, 8 June 2008

Mayhem Suppression Squad‎

Hello ^^ I removed the Category: Shattered Glass characters from the Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ members because Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ is already under Category: Shattered Glass characters. Just like Killbison only under Category:Breastforce which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --TX55^TALK 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

1989 Character Models

Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --Jimsorenson 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

Drift

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --Hutch 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --Jeysie 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --Detour 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --Jeysie 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --Detour 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections smaller, y'know.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --Nu-Priest 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Vandalism?

Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---AWT88 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--AWT88 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--ACIDSTORM92 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

• Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--Waz-z-z-zpinator59 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)

They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --Detour 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Barricade ROTF DS game

Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--Eagc7

So... the burden is on us to fix what you write?--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --Detour 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Ze little one

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.KrytenKoro 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

SG Ark & SG Nemesis

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --Jeysie 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for giving me my username

Seriously best alias ever Potty Mouth Anon 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

TFA: S.P.'s amnesia

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face. EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange Silvery 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - Chris McFeely 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... Silvery 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"

That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --ItsWalky 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --Detour 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --ItsWalky 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

The best kind of correct. --Detour 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

the Peter Cullen photo.

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. Unicron 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

editing

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out everything I did? Masterman555 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --Detour 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

Robot Heroes Thrust eyes

Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.ACIDSTORM92 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

IDW

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --Detour 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)

What Rosi said. No. --ItsWalky 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

British English spellings

Please read Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English, it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. 68.61.240.172 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

Captions

Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --Monzo 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)

Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --Detour 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)

I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --Monzo 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)

Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --Jeysie 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)

We know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --Monzo 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)

His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --Detour 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

Sideways Part-swapping pics

Detour- I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? 131.191.68.29 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [3] =)131.191.68.29 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Sari Edit

why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --0utrun 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --Karhukjnsi 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter.

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --Karhukjnsi 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Captions

No one appointed you the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --Monzo 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

My Grammar

Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7

Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --ItsWalky 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

Why did you remove my edit?

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. CH 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --Detour 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Friend of Autobots

Sometimes he talks to me too

My spark fills with joy --abates 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Right.....

What was that weird edit summary all about? ---Blackout- 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --Detour 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)

It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. ---Blackout- 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)

It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - Chris McFeely 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Double dash template

Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --Jeysie 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --Detour 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)

IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)

But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --Jeysie 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and {{--}} does the same amount of jack squattage. --Detour 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)

You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)

But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --Jeysie 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

*sigh* "first edit ever"

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --Stly92 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts

Jim-Bob's Diner is, in fact, a reference to Last Stand of the Wreckers co-writer James Roberts. Nick Roche said it himself [4]. (At first, I thought--and was very sure--it was a reference to Jim Salicrup and Bob Budiansky.) --Jeff39042 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --Detour 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Last Dutch Issue

The IP Anon 195.240.16.74 removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "The Void!" because he was shifting it to "On the Edge of Extinction!" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--Apcog 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --Detour 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

Looks like the anon was actually Sunjumper not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--Apcog 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --Detour 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--Apcog 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Anon-made G1 Cast List

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a wrong idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--Apcog 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

Toy Swapping

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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Toy Swapping 2

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.LordDalek 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

Hey.

Yo, be quiet bitch. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheRex4441 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Keep it polite, please. --abates 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

Prime VAs

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --Jeysie 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

edit war

If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --M Sipher 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

Translation help

Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French Animated episode titles here? Thanks! —Interrobang 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --Detour 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. —Interrobang 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

Cloaca joke?

Was there something wrong with it? 72.229.51.77 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Anon reverts

When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --ItsWalky 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --Detour 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --Detour 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

Nice caption

:D --FFN 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --Detour 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

Decepticon Drone

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

Katsuyuki Konishi and Frank Miller

My joke(s) may be weak, but

1. I wasn't violating any caption policies.
2. I uploaded the Frank Miller image. I deserve a caption or something.
3. Explaining the joke is not funny.
4. (Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):

• A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
• Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that both sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."

But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. Item42 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

Why are you reverting everything?

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --LokitheGrammarNazi 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --Khajidha 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --LokitheGrammarNazi 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the Twitcher F451, Derrick J. Wyatt, Starscream (BW) and Shelfwarmer pages. --Khajidha 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

• WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--Waz-z-z-zpinator59 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

If you don´t want people to write in the wiki, please let us know. You reverted some adds I made just because, like the vehicle model of some g1 mini-vehicles, the things on skids robot replica, saying its not the place for a small kinda review (just 3 or 4 lines) If you don't like people doing contributions, purchase this domain and make it yours!!! This is a wiki, based on everyone contributions --Galvatron77

"Based on everyone's contributions" doesn't mean "everyone's contributions should stick". Your addition are reviews, these should be objective overviews of the toy. --Detour 02:58, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

STOP REVERTING EVERY DAMN EDIT YOU SEE.--Bumblebee392 (talk) 15:23, 14 November 2013 (EST)

Checking over the edits of yours that Detour reverted: one was you changing a caption and one was you adding a caption. Changing captions is frowned upon for all users and adding captions is reserved for established users. No one is picking on you, we just expect you to follow the rules. --Khajidha (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2013 (EST)

I think I get the thing on changing captions, but I don't see what's wrong with adding captions.--fail guy is fail (talk) 15:38, 14 November 2013 (EST)

See our captions policy page. --Khajidha (talk) 16:31, 14 November 2013 (EST)

Dalek

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. LordDalek 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within Transformers fiction, which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--Detour 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. LordDalek 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --ItsWalky 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --Detour 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.LordDalek 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --ItsWalky 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek".". If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --Detour 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Better yet, read this: the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine". For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature. LordDalek 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.LordDalek 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Why would you ever want to err on the side of removing information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--Rosicrucian^Talk 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

This place is worse than Nazi Germany

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--Tommy-Vercetti 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --Detour 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Fanmodes

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we don't avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. JW 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

Koiter brothers

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --abates 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

Grimstone

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are not mentionned on their own page.

Ahem

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?

NVM I see, I screwed it up.

Emperor of Terror Scorponok

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --ItsWalky 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)

Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --Detour 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)

The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --ItsWalky 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

New mexico vs. New Mexico

Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page. MadmanFoidart 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Reverting edits

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far. 24.143.42.51 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)

You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --Detour 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

Mindset

You said: It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage. If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could not be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was always intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? JW 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)

No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --Detour 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)

This is how I suspect it went down:

1. Hailstorm toy was designed.
2. Kyde was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
3. Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."

Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset. --ItsWalky 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Hmm, okay. Point granted. JW 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

Motormaster

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--Metroplex 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, and there's a freighter truck that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --Detour 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

Windcharger

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--TOM 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Bumblebee

BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --M Sipher 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

DOTM Bumblebee

Just to clear things up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE the maker of the video says: because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--TOM 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

If you don't like Robert Stack

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it looks like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? 92.13.226.232 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)

Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. Geewunling 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

Inferno (BW)

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?

Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --ItsWalky 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --SymbolsWriter

Well, first there's the problem of replacing an existing caption. It's frowned upon. Second, a little [1] under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --ItsWalky 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --SymbolsWriter 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --SymbolsWriter 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

Regarding the edits Eagc7 made

Apparently you haven't read the Megatron (Movie) article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. Xaaron made this edit almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --FFN 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

Mech-Tech page

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --FortMax 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our Automorph Technology and Mech Alive pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --Detour 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

Fusion Cannon

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --BATTOUSAI XD 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

You didn't watch well enough. That's Jazz shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --Detour 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. Jazz does fire first, then Megatron fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --BATTOUSAI XD 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT) Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.

Do you have any evidence that it is his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, this does not look like either this or this. --Detour 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?

That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is entirely part of Megatron's left arm. --Detour 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it is definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--BATTOUSAI XD 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT) I'm sorry, but both of you are kind of wrong and kind of right. There's a HALF of the fusion cannon on each arm. He brings his arms together and they FUSE into the cannon. He can use each half separately, but when they are combined they do much more damage. Combaticons4ever 22:13, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

why didnt you jsut fixed it?

instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eagc7 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --Detour 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eagc7 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Dude, STOP. NOW.

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --FortMax 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --ItsWalky 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

The Autobot Hero

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an Andes Mountains page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --Khajidha 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

Well, Peru wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --Detour 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". Geewunling 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --Detour 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

Editing

I read the "Help:Editing" page.-Dirgeor 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

Crowbar

I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?

Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --Detour 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

Crisscross "Error"

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--Apcog 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

That's how I read the sequence of events. --M Sipher 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --Detour 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - Chris McFeely 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

Editing

Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me. -Caleb

No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, preliminary. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --Detour 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of different character.

No, this is the case of different altmodes. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --Detour 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument is ridiculous.

Joke

By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?

It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --Detour 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

Spam

Does THIS count as Spam?--Metroplex 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --Detour 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Volume Number

Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- Semysane 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Dave Fennoy Picture

Hi There. Could you find a picture of Dave Fennoy for his page?

Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this

Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --Detour 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.

No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

Found cosmos art from official artist!

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime

That's not official Transformers art. --Detour 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

Tell me

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --TheOnlyChoice 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --Detour 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

It's true.

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. 70.77.36.81 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor do it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --Detour 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

Can you Remove

Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eagc7 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --Detour 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

image tags

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.66.204.65 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with the wiki's policies regarding captions. --Detour 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

Arcee

Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. Antimatter 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

"Double Bruticus"

And the reason to remove the comment was...?

The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --ItsWalky 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

Steeljaw/Red Alert link

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to Final Transformations be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance? Pakopako 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)

No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --Detour 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)

Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. Pakopako 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

Why do you delete my...?

excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?

Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --Detour 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?user:Shockwave1704

Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --Detour 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there user:Shockwave1704

Andrusi said maybe if you followed proper image guidelines that it might be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --Detour 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhereuser:Shockwave1704

are you french? --Shockwave1704 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

No, he's Canadian.....--81.164.215.61 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --Shockwave1704 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations. User:Shockwave1704

I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --Detour 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

yes, but in this article French army = cowards--Shockwave1704 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --Khajidha 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

i disagree with you, but if you think so...--Shockwave1704 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --Khajidha 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --Shockwave1704 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --Detour 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --Shockwave1704 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even get the damn joke. So drop the subject. --Detour 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --Shockwave1704 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Jokerberg

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited Daran Norris.--Humanite 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thank you! --Detour 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD Jacktransformerdude 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

"Useless padding"

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :) I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of that is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you really remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. Deusoma 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

Periods and Spaces

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-) Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Deusoma 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)

You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

Subscription service figures

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the Transformers Collectors' Club page said. Should we change that page? --Khajidha 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

Faceless tags

I'm not the one removing them. TFMAN is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- spyder 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --Detour 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

Alright, will do. -- spyder 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

Vocab

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for Tim Curry's page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.SirSpoonwave 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Allspark Addendum

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. (184.56.31.203 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

IDW

If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed

It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --ItsWalky 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

Animated toy/merchandise section

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to Megatron (Animated) and Starscream (Animated) pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of Optimus Prime (Animated) and Bumblebee (Animated), with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).

The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a huge amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.

As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the List of Transformers restaurant promotions. --Detour 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the List of Transformers restaurant promotions to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --Sharpfinger 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Shattered Expectations reference in Triage

It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.11.36.231 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --Detour 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --M Sipher 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.

It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --Detour 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

how to act towards others

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.Phantom 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --Detour 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Accents

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:

The Transformers film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English and Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the Internet; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.

'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.192.249.47.177 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

What do you have against what I posted about Octane's cameo in 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

PCCs

According to Hydra Choppmaster and Rollermaster ARE Blazemaster and Straxus. Only the minions/Targetmaster little guys are new characters. --76.28.76.206 13:19, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

Why?

What is your problem? I added a joke to a picture of Slipstream that didn't have a joke. Or do you just feel the need to undo everything I do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AutobotKickshift (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Until you contribute something, you should just leave captions alone. And sign your posts. -- spyder^{Use this!} 18:21, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

New

Hello. I'm New Here. Thanks for helping on Motoko Kumai. I Had to find some sources to fix the page. Not my Best. But I'll be careful. Slow Connection though.

Thanks Agian!Energizer 03:27, 14 December 2012 (EST)

Computer Problems

The reason why my images are blurry is because my computer seems to have a problem with it. Apparently, my computer doesn't like my images being clear, so they just become blurry. I know, I noticed it too. Movie09 00:41, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

Still?

Again! How much do I have to contribute to make you understand that I have contributed enough to go to other pages add captions or jokes on some images. Every time I go to the Articles that Need Images page I add an image and that means that I have contributed something. At least I have done something. I'm tired of being followed. I'm starting to belive you have not seen my captions. Another thing that I would like to ask is: Why did you say that I could use some cleanup with the Bot Shots Battle Game! page. What's wrong with it? Does it need any more information? The last thing I would want is the page or my captions (or both) being deleted by anyone. Movie09 11:49, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

Thing is, all your images end up being deleted for being of poor quality. Whatever paint program you're using, try changing to something like GIMP - using MS Paint or whatever you're doing is doomed to fail. - SanityOrMadness 12:28, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

Once Again!

My image of Sky Garry has been deleted! This is the sixth time my image has been delted! It didn't even have bad quality! I'm starting to think that you want me to contribute on this wiki, because in seconds someone has to delete something that I do. Movie09 17:31, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

Blatant and false information

To detour....

Who Are you and what blatant and false information as I been posting on bloody web?

Signed Assassinator

You added information to Arcee (Movie) and Sideswipe (Movie) indicating that they were close allies and altered a statement about Arcee blaming herself for Bumblebee's injuries to say she blamed herself for Sideswipe's injuries. Which fiction is that from? --abates 16:41, 18 April 2013 (EDT)

The Abominus Stragglers

I went ahead and looked for Blight (Prime), Windrazor (Prime), and Rippersnapper (Prime) and found them. One question though... do we wait until they're available in the USA/UK, or is it okay that they're only available in Taiwan? Combaticons4ever 22:07, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

Transformers Prime: Predacons Rising

I didn't mean to watch it leaked, I just found it on a website, have you watched it. (Sorry if I spoiled things.) Speedy Question Mark (talk) 18:39, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Lieutenant Commander

Thanks for the backstop on the Lieutenant Commander page. I had meant to take the page back to before both of PunchSydeiron's edits but somehow got a little confused and only undid the last one. --Khajidha 15:16, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

Hi! Why'd you revert my Mirages?

i'm trying to improve the wiki, but if i'm making things worse, i need help understanding what i'm doing wrong so i can do better in the future. i thought it noteworthy that so many characters with such similar vehicle modes, and most of them with the same name, all used such close color schemes, but NOT the color scheme used by the G1 1984 bearer of the name. Why isn't that worth mentioning? Certain TF characters/names/archetypes are becoming more consistent across franchises for the sake of making Hasbro/TakaraTomy product more iconic, more recognizable: Optimus Primes are big red and blue trucks (fewer black Primals, fewer fire trucks or flame decos); Bumblebees are smaller (either cuter or sleeker) yellow cars; Cliffjumpers are red cars similar in size to whichever Bumblebee lives in the same universe, regardless of whether or not the Cliffjumper is a Bumblebee redeco. Doesn't it seem like, at least for a while, Mirages were keeping to the racer archetype but not only moving away from G1 colors, but largely moving in the same new direction? Sure, maybe the yellows and reds were coincidental, but i feel like it's circumstantial evidence that should go in the case file anyway. If you disagree, please tell me why--maybe i'll learn something about how i can make more useful contributions to this site. --Rhymus (talk) 03:34, 6 December 2013 (EST)

The trouble with this sort of thing is it always ends up splitting hairs too fine and either needing too many caveats or really stretching to make a connection. If it ends up "he's always this, except when he's this, this, or this" then it's not really a trend.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:13, 6 December 2013 (EST)

i think i see your point, but i don't think the number of exceptions necessarily cancels out the fact that there's a trend. Like, "Optimus Prime is always a semi truck, except when he's a pickup truck, sports car, or fire engine." Furthermore, maybe sometimes it's less of a trend, and more of a division: X, Y, and Z are homages to this earlier TF, but A, B, and C just happen to have the same name. But at any rate, the pattern i detected of yellow and red Mirages and similar racecars may be entirely coincidental, so i'll just put that bit of trivia on my own user page instead of back in the characters'/toys' articles.

i'll get the hang of this Wiki-editing business yet! Thanks for helping me get there!

--Rhymus (talk) 04:06, 18 December 2013 (EST)

LaserbeaksFury Cliffjumper and the Society of Ultimate Vehicles

Thanks for the fixes! (You're right, i did miss the episode and misread that crucial bit of the article.) How did you move File:LaserbeaksFury Bumblebee and Sparkplug.jpg to File:LaserbeaksFury Cliffjumper and Sparkplug.jpg? (There's been talk of moving Acronyms to Abbreviations, but i don't know how.) --Rhymus (talk) 03:41, 30 December 2013 (EST)

At the top of each page, there should be a tab marked "move", which will let you move a page or image. --abates (talk) 04:34, 30 December 2013 (EST)

Dark Cybertron Chapter 7 "Bechdel Test"

Check out the discussion on the comic issue's page. It was somewhere in Infiltration; a flashback shows Verity and her social worker talking about her behavior, unrelated to her relationships to men. Magaroja (talk) 09:27, 23 January 2014 (EST)

Captions

Hello! I saw your post. I understand that you don't permit new users to make a lot of captions like that, and it seems like captions are a pretty big issue here. I decided to join to make the occasional edit here and there, and I know I got pretty carried away with the captions, they're just too fun, and they're my favorite part of this website! It makes me remember how fun and enjoyable Transformers is as a franchise, and even more so how the fandom is just as fun. I will certainly contribute to the website in the future, adding images of new toys revealed (ex. Botcon figures just shown), adding missing info, or a caption, etc. I appreciate you letting me know, I wouldn't want to become a problem for the site!

Jcc2224 (Actually forgot a "2" in my username, I don't know if you can edit that, but it would be great if you could)

Thanks!

About change to Crosshairs page and kibble.

Hey there.

Sorry if my contribution wasn't clear. I know that Bulkhead's kibble doesn't turn into a longcoat. I was just saying he made awesome use of it (as a chair).

I was just saying that Bulkhead and Crosshairs have excellent uses of their kibbles.

Sorry if I bothered you, and I hope this cleared things up.

Cheers!

--Dean3 (talk) 01:18, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

That's not noteworthy, though. It's just kibble being used, and even then one was an intentional design element while the other was just chunks of kibble that were used as a sight gag in an episode, and later implemented on the Leader Class toy. Animated Lockdown's kibble also forms coat-tails too, at least on his animation model, but that doesn't mean we should note it on Crosshairs's page. --Detour (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

Ah, I see. I'll let it be then. Just thought it was interesting.--Dean3 (talk) 18:59, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

Octane

I can see now why you didn't like my edit I posted about Octane, after 'Starscream's Ghost'. When you (people in general, not you in particular) think about Octane's first (and only other) speaking role, 'Thief in the Night', it says that 'that episode didn't end with Galvatron and Octane on bad terms'. After thinking about when you reverted my edits, it makes more sense now, that you reverted them, because Octane (part of how, like I said, the episode 'Thief in the Night' doesn't end with him and Galvatron on bad terms) actually wasn't supposed to be the renegade Decepticon in 'Starscream's Ghost', it should have been Blitzwing (the episode was supposed to be like a sequel to the near end of part 5 of 'The Five Faces of Darkness', when Galvatron was about to throw him out of the Decepticons, when he thought he was becoming a turncoat to them).

The reason Octane replaced Blitzwing was all to do with how Blitzwing's toy was getting too old, and was gradually becoming delisted by Hasbro, where Octane was a much newer character than him, so the producers of the show wanted to promote one of the newer characters. Chris rabbit (talk) 03:45, 16 February 2016 (EST)Chris_rabbit