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::The art even goes out of its way to eliminate what little femininity the toy evinces (the pronounced lips), so it does seem to be making a statement on the character's gender. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) | ::The art even goes out of its way to eliminate what little femininity the toy evinces (the pronounced lips), so it does seem to be making a statement on the character's gender. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) | ||
:::I wonder if the packaging art and copy goes against the deco's intent, since the face is decoed in coded-female colors purple and pink for no reason -- original Greejeeber's head was black with green eyes -- and that seems pretty weird if TakaraTomy was trying to entirely unlady the character. (That's trying to fish for motives a bit too much to base wiki decisions on, so I'm mostly just musing.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 13:17, 23 March 2015 (EDT) | :::I wonder if the packaging art and copy goes against the deco's intent, since the face is decoed in coded-female colors purple and pink for no reason -- original Greejeeber's head was black with green eyes -- and that seems pretty weird if TakaraTomy was trying to entirely unlady the character. (That's trying to fish for motives a bit too much to base wiki decisions on, so I'm mostly just musing.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 13:17, 23 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
::::I feel that assuming "male unless otherwise specified is totally unreasonable and sorta enforcing of the whole "male is the default gender" belief. If you're totally dedicated to assuming a character isn't female unless she's got her tits out, you could always just use "they/them/their" to refer to the character until fiction surfaces proving one gender or another. The same should be done for aforementioned Midnight Express. [[User:Brawlastator|Brawlastator]] ([[User talk:Brawlastator|talk]]) 16:48, 11 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Fair or not, "male unless otherwise specified" is a totally reasonable conclusion by boys' toy standards in general and Transformers in particular. All that being said, I would basically be dumbfounded if this toy hasn't made an appearance somewhere as a G1 female inside of eighteen months. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 14:16, 23 March 2015 (EDT) | :Fair or not, "male unless otherwise specified" is a totally reasonable conclusion by boys' toy standards in general and Transformers in particular. All that being said, I would basically be dumbfounded if this toy hasn't made an appearance somewhere as a G1 female inside of eighteen months. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 14:16, 23 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
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Why is this at (RID) instead of (Adventure)? It's not like Hot Rod (Henkei!) is at Hot Rod (Universe). --ItsWalky (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2015 (EDT)
Are we really going to use male pronouns here just because there's no proof that this character is female? I mean. I get why you're doing it, I guess. But "male until proven otherwise" has never really sat right with me. (See also: Universe Midnight Express being referred to as "he" despite being identical to a female character and having no fiction whatsoever.) Riptide (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
- In most cases I'd agree, but considering this is Takara we're talking about, I think we can be reasonably certain that if Greejeeber was a woman, the package art would, alas, make it pretty damn clear... Jalaguy (talk) 09:25, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
- The art even goes out of its way to eliminate what little femininity the toy evinces (the pronounced lips), so it does seem to be making a statement on the character's gender. - Chris McFeely (talk)
- I wonder if the packaging art and copy goes against the deco's intent, since the face is decoed in coded-female colors purple and pink for no reason -- original Greejeeber's head was black with green eyes -- and that seems pretty weird if TakaraTomy was trying to entirely unlady the character. (That's trying to fish for motives a bit too much to base wiki decisions on, so I'm mostly just musing.) --ItsWalky (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
- I feel that assuming "male unless otherwise specified is totally unreasonable and sorta enforcing of the whole "male is the default gender" belief. If you're totally dedicated to assuming a character isn't female unless she's got her tits out, you could always just use "they/them/their" to refer to the character until fiction surfaces proving one gender or another. The same should be done for aforementioned Midnight Express. Brawlastator (talk) 16:48, 11 May 2015 (EDT)
- I wonder if the packaging art and copy goes against the deco's intent, since the face is decoed in coded-female colors purple and pink for no reason -- original Greejeeber's head was black with green eyes -- and that seems pretty weird if TakaraTomy was trying to entirely unlady the character. (That's trying to fish for motives a bit too much to base wiki decisions on, so I'm mostly just musing.) --ItsWalky (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
- The art even goes out of its way to eliminate what little femininity the toy evinces (the pronounced lips), so it does seem to be making a statement on the character's gender. - Chris McFeely (talk)
- Fair or not, "male unless otherwise specified" is a totally reasonable conclusion by boys' toy standards in general and Transformers in particular. All that being said, I would basically be dumbfounded if this toy hasn't made an appearance somewhere as a G1 female inside of eighteen months. -LV (talk) 14:16, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
