Talk:Greejeeber

Why is this at (RID) instead of (Adventure)? It's not like Hot Rod (Henkei!) is at [[Hot Rod (Universe)]]. --ItsWalky (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2015 (EDT)

Are we really going to use male pronouns here just because there's no proof that this character is female? I mean. I get why you're doing it, I guess. But "male until proven otherwise" has never really sat right with me. (See also: Universe Midnight Express being referred to as "he" despite being identical to a female character and having no fiction whatsoever.) Riptide (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

In most cases I'd agree, but considering this is Takara we're talking about, I think we can be reasonably certain that if Greejeeber was a woman, the package art would, alas, make it pretty damn clear... Jalaguy (talk) 09:25, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

The art even goes out of its way to eliminate what little femininity the toy evinces (the pronounced lips), so it does seem to be making a statement on the character's gender. - Chris McFeely (talk)

I wonder if the packaging art and copy goes against the deco's intent, since the face is decoed in coded-female colors purple and pink for no reason -- original Greejeeber's head was black with green eyes -- and that seems pretty weird if TakaraTomy was trying to entirely unlady the character. (That's trying to fish for motives a bit too much to base wiki decisions on, so I'm mostly just musing.) --ItsWalky (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

I feel that assuming "male unless otherwise specified is totally unreasonable and sorta enforcing of the whole "male is the default gender" belief. If you're totally dedicated to assuming a character isn't female unless she's got her tits out, you could always just use "they/them/their" to refer to the character until fiction surfaces proving one gender or another. The same should be done for aforementioned Midnight Express. Brawlastator (talk) 16:48, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

Fair or not, "male unless otherwise specified" is a totally reasonable conclusion by boys' toy standards in general and Transformers in particular. All that being said, I would basically be dumbfounded if this toy hasn't made an appearance somewhere as a G1 female inside of eighteen months. -LV (talk) 14:16, 23 March 2015 (EDT)

The name should really be Gregevor, not Greejeeber since that is the english spelling of the name that Takara put on the toy packaging. It shouldn't matter that there was a different Japanese character with the exact same Japanese language spelling but with an english romanisation of Greejeeber. That character is not this character. There is nothing official saying Greejeeber is the correct english spelling of the Adventure character's name. Nor should it matter how "Gregevor" looks like it could be pronounced to an english speaking audience. Bass X0 (talk) 10:12, 26 September 2015 (EDT)

Gender: Asked & Answered

Asked Hisashi Yuki on Twitter, got an answer.

Mr. @TFYUKI, is Transformers Adventure TAV 08 Gregevor (グリジバー) a male or female character?

He is a master of cybertron martial arts. His battle style and appearance to show in the sauna bath is very bewitching.

Not the one I wanted to hear, but one that puts an end to any ambiguity... well, so far as the Japanese character is concerned, anyway. Still a chance US fiction can do something different. --Monzo (talk) 21:03, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

My intent back when I was still doing the back page of the club magazine was to make Gregevor genderfluid. Obviously that ain't happening now since I don't do the back page of the club magazine anymore, plus now we have this answer, but, well, y'know, stuff. It happens. --ItsWalky (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2015 (EDT)