Talk:Brainstorm (G1)

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While I appreciate the recognition that the Japanese version of Brainstorm is rather different than the version in the first-paragraph summary, the summary is also significantly different (aside from the mention of Arcana) from any other non-IDW version. --G.B. Blackrock (talk) 14:44, 3 January 2014 (EST)

I agree. The dodgy and amoral stuff is strictly IDW when it comes to Brainstorm.--Nu-Priest (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2014 (EST)
Yeah, I'll put my hands up here, I probably did go a little overboard when I updated that intro. Feel free to go hack'n'slash on it. Jalaguy (talk) 17:35, 3 January 2014 (EST)

Dead Universe / Constructed Cold

Okay, I need some help on this before trying to update Brainstorm through Dark Cybertron. In MTMTE #17, Brainstorm indicated he was Forged, and "marched for knockoffs". In #21, though, he seemed to be suffering the effects of the universal killswitch, meaning he was REALLY Constructed Cold and misrepresenting himself. But Dark Cybertron confirmed Brainstorm HAD NO spark since the launch of the Lost Light thanks to the Dead Universe. So how could he be affected by the killswitch? --Xaaron (talk) 12:42, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

Nova's corpse didn't render Brainstorm completely sparkless, it just left his spark in a low yield, "undead" state (I think Roberts confirmed this on Twitter sometime). And so the killswitch could still affect him, in the same way that you can "kill" a zombie, even though it's undead. Jalaguy (talk) 13:14, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

Equal Rights for Knockoffs

"Early in the war, Genitus went on anti-apartheid marches. While his "equal rights for knockoffs!" talk made him sound like he was a forged Transformer." Wait-a-minute. Was there even an apartheid at the time the war started? Brainstorm may be making stuff up to hide his status. ZeroSD (talk) 03:19, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

"Forged or Constructed Cold?" was an outdated question when Megatron was arrested in Rodion and he was allowed to ignore it, which implies that the apartheid was at least officially over by that point. There's nothing to say that it didn't flare up again during the war, but it does look to me like Brainstorm is telling porkies there. --Emvee (talk) 04:18, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

First modern headmaster?

I can see why Overload isn't counted but why isn't Energon Omega Supreme the first modern headmaster?omegatron (talk) 17:34, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Given Overload has been specifically identified as using Headmaster technology, I'm not sure I can see justification for the former. He's also not the first modern toy of a Headmaster character, since we've had Weirdwolf and Hardhead. "First modern toy of a G1 Headmaster character which retains the Headmaster gimmick" is more accurate, but it sure makes it sound less noteworthy spelled out like that, doesn't it. -LV (talk) 23:33, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Old Ways?

Why does "Old Ways" have to be a continuity error? TMK, we don't know when the first MTOs were activated during the war. They could have been thawed under the reign of Zeta Prime, making Genitus an early soldier before transferring to the New Institute. I don't think Prime was called "Optimus Prime" in Old Ways, so he could've still been Orion Pax during that exchange with Kup, setting it in Zeta's era (the length of which we don't know). --Xaaron (talk) 16:01, 17 March 2016 (EDT)

Its explicitly stated that without Megatron, he wouldn't have existed, so he was likely brought online in the war. Escargon (talk) 16:05, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
...And how does that prevent him from appearing in Old Ways? --Xaaron (talk) 16:12, 17 March 2016 (EDT)