Talk:Chip Chase

Has anybody noticed that Chip's eyes went from blue to brown during the course of the G1 cartoon?

What was wrong with the Dr. Strangelove quote? - Dark T Zeratul 11:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. I say it goes back. Mein Furher, I can valk!!! --M Sipher 19:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I second that motion. Takeshi357 15:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Prowl-2?

Was he actually called Prowl-2 in Binaltech? (I ask because that name means... something specific, given that Takara puts CR/RiD in the G1 Timeline.) -Derik 22:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sort of. They put Car Robots, not RiD, in the G1 Timeline. They can't put *both* in, since they're two different things, unless one happened after the other. Also, at the end of Binaltech, everything got wiped out and rebooted, IIRC, so one Prowl-2 can't become the other regardless. --ItsWalky 22:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Prowl 2 was the name for his Binaltech body when it was planned to operate simultaneously with Prowl, back before he Died. On a side note did anyone ever translate that damn thing? And to Walky, Takara considers RID and Car Robots to be the same thing, at least that's what Sideway's first appearance being in RID seems to suggest. But until we get a Translation of that page we should take the CR/Movie stuff with a grain of salt. 85.195.123.29

Uh...Car Robots *is* RiD, isn't it? I mean, isn't Car Robots the original Japanese version of RiD? Wouldn't that be like saying Transformers: Super Link isn't Transformers Energon? Kendrakirai 16:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC) (Last try, I think I've got this now)

Sort of. For example, they technically happen in two different continuity families. In Japan, there was this guy named Fire Convoy who had a bunch of dudes who travelled from another dimension to fight Predacons who travelled from another dimension on Earth in 2000, while G1 was going on elsewhere. Over here, it was another universe's Optimus Prime, no time travel or dimension hopping involved. The Decepticons didn't exist until Predacon Megatron built some. It wasn't just a direct translation, like Super Link and Energon were. Americans changed a lot, and the two versions happen in distinct universes, more similar to Galaxy Force and Cybertron in the beginning. --ItsWalky 17:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Aahhhh, I see. Alrighty then. Chip Chase burgers for everyone! Kendrakirai 20:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

What? Chip chase in the movie?

I want proof! I demand pictures!

it's from the game. -Derik 14:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Then maybe the article should say that, and not the movie! --ItsWalky 14:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but it's the moviegame. The game based on the movie based mainly on the cartoon based on the toys based on completely different and unrelated toys. :)

Yal

Can we get a screencap of something that reads "Yal"? Otherwise, I assume that people are going to constantly "correct" it to Yale, even if we put a "(sic)" in there. --Steve-o 16:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Headmasters Chip

Could anyone with a copy of The Ark II maybe scan in the pic of adult Chip (who wound up never appearing in the series)? Seems like it would be a rather cool thing to have and, well, I'd kinda like to see it. --DrSpengler 12:17, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

Ableism

Yay time to play "only disabled person around who's willing to do this."

Anyway let's start from the top. You're not confined to a wheelchair nor is it an impediment. It's the opposite. It's like saying you're impeded by your legs. That is our legs.

"No one's ever really disabled so long as he has courage" do I really need to explain that? No, I'm pretty sure I'm still disabled. Still can't walk, still in pain, still can hardly see, still can hardly talk, etc. Google why it's bad I'm bad at explaining.

"Mein fuhrer I can valk!" and emphasis on stands up in his wheelchair. Listen I know this is going to be a huge shock but a lot of people who use wheelchairs, myself included, can stand up and walk, just not for very long/far.

"Maybe if I squeezed you hard enough, I'd fix your body" Disabled people aren't broken and most don't see a cure/fix as endgoal. We know it's not realistic. For the most part we just want people to accept and listen to us.

"Chip can't stand (ha ha)" Do I need to tell you why joking about someone's disability is bad because I really shouldn't.

"handicapped and hence more dependant on the Autobots" Same thing goes for handicapped, you should know by now it's bad and that's not a context where it's acceptable. Also there's tons of disabled people who get along fine on their own, just because we're disabled doesn't make us more dependent.

Seriously just listen to disabled people when we talk about ableism good God. Luftkommandant (talk) 05:39, 9 June 2017 (EDT)

Well, the "No one's ever really disabled" bit is a direct quote, but... yeah, this article is pretty damn bad. --Riptide (talk) 06:44, 9 June 2017 (EDT)

I've got absolutely no qualms with excising any of the stuff that's a product of our own editors' poor word choice or in bad humour, that requires no explanation or justification, and I'll scrub it right now. But on the quote, yeah, that's a direct quote, literally the most famous thing Chip's ever said, and virtually the only time his disability and his attitude towards it was addressed in-story, and as with other tactless things this franchise has done, it's not our business to pretend it didn't happen. Additionally I know you didn't remove the "more dependent" comment in your edit, just changed the wording, but I want to make it clear that the dependency angle was the writers' stated thought process. - Chris McFeely (talk)

There was also the time Thrust called him "reject parts" and laughed at him until it looked like he was about to cry. This... very casually-written children's show from 34 years ago had enough unfortunate gags at easy targets that, yeah, we don't need to invent more. The "No one is disabled" quote MUST stay - it's as unavoidable as a camel in Carbombya. I would hope that the Dr. Strangelove joke is acceptable.... but a lot of the rest of the teasing can go to where all the "gay Tracks" stuff went. --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 08:07, 9 June 2017 (EDT)