Talk:Fandom
That IP address was me. I figured since you have this entry just dripping with snark including "Bayformers", it should include the inexplicable fan belief that early G1 had more realistic representations of extraterrestrial robots, even though the toy engineers made them to look like the human-built piloted mecha they were in their original toy lines. -Rotty 18:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, G1 Transformers are a more realistic representation of Alien robots, to an extent anyway. The movie bots are far more human in proportion, and more of them have more humanoid faces. Squashing up car parts into the shape of a human might make it look "weirder", but it's certainly not more alien.
Making them look scarier and more detailed doesn't make it any more probabilistic. It's the typical BS Hollywood way of showing aliens. They're no better than G1 Transformers in the long-run, but like so much about this movie, seems more convincing on the surface. Not to mention that the characters were redesigned from the toys into the ones we consider their "real" designs today. The Movie TFs mostly fail though because of too much internal exposure, and unrealistic (though somewhat cool looking) Transformations.
- Oooh. Your edit didn't say anything about extraterrestrials, so, I totally didn't know where you were going. I personally prefer the line more brief, without bringing that part in, but, I don't feel real strongly about it. If you put it back in I might edit the phrasing to make it more to my liking, though. :) --Steve-o 19:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I know that someone from Hasbro (Whatshername, the exec who used to work for Power Rangers?) mentioned at some point that they estimate that X% of Transformers toys are bought by adult collectors- and I think it was 20. That should probably be in here.
I admit, I find the tone of this article unnecessarily harsh. I'd like to see it either moderated, or to have Fans and Fandom made two separate articles, with most of the negative aspects assigned to fandom. (Which I think is a fair division of blame- you still hear stories of hardcore transfans who run into the occasional hardcore solo-fan who has no clue about the 'net, conventions etc. The really nasty negative aspects of fans are almost all group behaviors that feed on themselves and doesn't exist in individuals if a fan is removed from fandom.)
...oh my god, I just articulated a romantacist belief in the fundamental goodness of humanity and the corrupting influence of society on individuals. KILL ME NOW! DO IT BEFORE I SPREAD PEACE AND LOVE ALL OVER THE WIKI! -Derik 20:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Was that Michelle Fields? --FFN 13:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also greatly dislike the tone of this article. It gives the impression that we here at this Wiki somehow stand separate and apart from the "fandom" which it sarcastically ridicules. Were it up to me, everything on this page but the short History section would be removed. --KilMichaelMcC 02:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I find this article totally hilarious and that it contains quite a lot of truths. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.121.202 (talk • contribs).
I'm okay with the link. --ItsWalky 03:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I admit to being a little surprised at the negative reactions, as this is all stuff that's already written in various places on this wiki. Still, I recognize that if my only supporter is an anonymous string of numbers, I apparently just have a weird opinion on it. I just talked to Walky about it and he said the sarcastic "accomplishments"list could maybe be preserved if it were just a small part of a large, otherwise focusing-on-the-positive article. That sounds okay to me... I'd kind of like to keep at least some of the list in there, but, again, I seemingly have no perception of how vicious what I wrote is, so maybe it should be totally scrapped. For now I'll call shenanigans on myself while we decide what to do. --Steve-o 03:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- Keep it. I read some seriously ridiculous crap in the past week that makes this page DESERVE existence. Oh yeah, and it needs a mention of terrible fanfiction in there, since nothing is free from terrible fanfiction.--MCRG 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- This article is just full of win. Reading it totally made my day. I say keep it. Detour 06:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem witht he negativity of the article per-se... it just seems kinda down on fans unless there's some contrasting material to balance it out. -Derik 07:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- Pretty much all of the snark and negativity on display in the current version is depressingly close to the truth, but I for one would certainly like to see it b
