Talk:Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers
How about the statement that Metrotitan is made of the ghosts of dead Decepticons? I know I've heard that thrown around a time or two back in the day.... -hx 20:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Thats Violinjyger and it's true.
Alright, how about something about how G2 is G2 and everything after the movie, while technically a second generation, is not "G2" (although I recall hearing that Pat Lee regarded it as such).--Zodberg 22:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
French Starscream
I went ahead and removed the entry about Starscream. First of all, while I don't know about Bigbot's reliability... the sound clips ARE legit. And the French source you pulled from TFW2005 referred to Starscream being male in the CARTOON (ie "episodes") rather than the movie itself, which used an entirely different dub team.
I'm French Canadian, all my ancestors came to Canada from France, between the ages of three and ten, I rented the movie in French every single time I was at my grandparents' house. So I know what I'm talking about here. --Detour 22:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would also assume that the French fans interviewed to dispell that theory ALSO knew what they were talking about. And this Youtube clip and this other Youtube clip don't make him sound very female to me. It's your word against both other French fans and evidence I just watched with my own eyes, man. --ItsWalky 22:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I dunno how many more bloody times I must say this, the French movie used a different dub team from either French dubs of the cartoon. I even pointed it out in Starscream's article. Yes, in the TV show he was a guy, but in the movie, the new dub team made him and Shrapnel girls. Listen to those clips for proof. Those are legit from the TFTM I watched growing up. --Detour 22:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I tried to get Nevermore to clarify on this when he made the changes, but he was unable to provide more info. Can you confirm that Starscream was characterized / referred to as female in the movie, along with the feminine voice? I think it's important that we clarify the myth as "partly true" rather than just delete it, but I want to be sure we have it all nailed down. --Steve-o 22:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, aside from the obvious voice, Megatron says to Starscream "Tu es une imbécile." In English, "an idiot" would be used to refer to a male or a female idiot, but in French the article varies in gender, were Starscream a male he would have said "Tu es un imbécile." instead of "une imbécile". (French articles and determiners)
- Shrapnel being female is OBVIOUS from the fact that Kickback calls him/her "Mademoiselle Shrapnel", which translates to "Miss Shrapnel".
- I'm trying to locate video clips of the French dub of TFTM to have more than just sound clips but so far I haven't found any... not sure where I could find a VHS tape in this day and age either... --Detour 22:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- For those wondering why Shrapnel's being mentioned here, you can read this link, which is how this whole issue was brought up in the first place. But note that I've never questioned (for I've had no reason to do so) movie Shrapnel's femininity.--G.B. Blackrock 23:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I tried to get Nevermore to clarify on this when he made the changes, but he was unable to provide more info. Can you confirm that Starscream was characterized / referred to as female in the movie, along with the feminine voice? I think it's important that we clarify the myth as "partly true" rather than just delete it, but I want to be sure we have it all nailed down. --Steve-o 22:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Repackaged old toys
I think we should also have something on the notion that new-packaging releases of older toys are old unsold items taken back from store shelves, pulled from their cards, and RE-packaged onto new cards. I mean, this HAS to be bullshit. But I'm not sure of the best way to phrase it, since it's not a ridiculous argument that comes up very often. I wonder if Kyde has any insights on this. --M Sipher 20:20, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know that I've ever heard somebody claim that, but admittedly, I have been out of online TF discussions for a year or two, and have never read the web boards regularly. I think that unless this is something that actually comes up semi-frequently, there's not much reason to bring it up in the article. --Steve-o 22:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
