Talk:Primus Vanguard

Member continuity

So, if all the Vanguards members come from the Precursor World, does that make them all G1 incarnations (pre-G1 but you get the point) who should have their own pages? Since Omega Sentinel is actually not the Energon incarnation dimension hopping? How should we do this? Also, shouldn't we have a full roster? At least on the Order's individual page?- TransFormersfan1 (talk) 12:49, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Absolutely not on having pages that will be two paragraphs long just for describing characters that show up in the background for a bit to die. Escargon (talk) 13:03, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Isn't that our policy though? We have dozens of pages about hi-and-die characters, (take G1 Skidmark, who appears just to die but because he's a G1 incarnation he has his own page, or all the Wreckers in Prime who get namedropped as being dead like Impactor or Pyro). With the exception of the Thirteen (who were multiversal singularities once) and RiD2001 (who are G1 characters in Japan), if a character shows up in a different franchise, even as a hie-and-die cameo, we give them a new page. At least, that's how I understand it. TransFormersfan1 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Skidmark and Pyro at least did a bit more than just appear to die; they had a vague level of backstory. Almost none of the Vanguard guys appear for more than a panel. Escargon (talk) 13:34, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

I'll be honest, I think appearing on-screen as part of an organization is equal to being namedropped as being a dead member of one. I'd say Omega Sentinel for example appears in multiple comics at this point, even if he isn't a fleshed out character, but he's got more content than say, Prime Rotorstorm. I would like to note I am in favor of keeping them on their original pages (both for being some of the only appearances of these characters, but just so we don't have dozens of new pages with so little content), but I honestly don't see how it's consistent with how it's been done up until now. TransFormersfan1 (talk) 13:39, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

The seven universes that comprised the Precursor multiverse could maybe not be G1 continuities? Technically? I think by universal stream rules they would be Primax streams, but I think maybe there's wiggle room for the sake of editing? TransFormersfan1 (talk) 13:50, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Or it could just simply be that they're those characters and we don't create a few hundred pages for nobodies. Escargon (talk) 22:36, 12 April 2021 (EDT)

Hey there! One of the leads on Selects comic coverage here. A couple things:

• First of all we do already provide full rosters, that's what the galleries under the "Member" tabs on each Order page are about, you can see an example here.
• Second, I would really caution holding off on proposing any wide reaching changes to Precursor World coverage until full processing of the final chapter of Selects is complete considering the implications for the continuity therein.
• Third, for a project of this scale I would really encourage you to raise this discussion in either the discord or the community portal rather than an individual talk page.

If you still feel an overhaul is necessary after the finale has filtered through the existing coverage we'd be happy to discuss it with you there. Hope this helped! -AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 00:18, 13 April 2021 (EDT)

It did, thank you! No idea how I missed the members tab, didn't even look for it, totally on me. You're right, I will go to the Discord, I just wanted to make sure the topic was being discussed.TransFormersfan1 (talk) 11:15, 13 April 2021 (EDT)