Talk:Transformers Legends (comic)

HQ scans of BTE #10-12 for those who want them: [1], [2], [3] Saix (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2015 (EDT)

"Business Trip Edition"

I'm not sure this is the best translation. All of the dictionaries I've looked at translate "出張版" as "branch-off edition (of a series)". 出張 by itself does mean "business trip", but that's not literally what the kanji mean. It's like saying a getaway car is a car for vacations. Saix (talk) 10:35, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

*poke* Saix (talk) 05:20, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

I guess nobody cares if I move the pages over to "Bonus Edition"? Saix (talk) 21:49, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Broken link?

The page link at the bottom doesn't seem to be working anymore for some reason. Escargon (talk) 15:11, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

The link on the TakTomy site's Legends homepage is broken, too. Weird. Maybe they're planning a collection of the comics and want to take the free-to-view installments off the site? I dunno. --DrSpengler (talk) 15:23, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

Grrr... Makes me wish I had gotten around to take more pictures for articles before this happened. --Ascendron (talk) 17:16, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

I think you can probably find the comics uploaded on other sites. Saix (talk) 19:53, 31 August 2015 (EDT)

Well, now it's back. Weird. Escargon (talk) 16:21, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

Proposal to use Japanese character names

I know it's probably been debated countless times on the wiki to the conclusion of the wiki uses English-based names, but considering that the Legends comic often relies on English-original versus Japanese-original name jokes, I propose that this page use exact names wherever possible, such as referring to the main characters by their Japanese names. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 16:57, 6 December 2015 (EST)

Splitting

Since this article is getting super long, maybe we should just bite the bullet and split out the chapters to their own articles? Saix (talk) 19:06, 28 July 2016 (EDT)

*poke* Saix (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

Given how short some of the chapters are, my suggestion would be more of a sub-page setup, like Transformers Legends (comic)/Chapters 1-20 (and so on) or something? Jalaguy (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

I considered that, but it seems like a pain to set up and link to properly. Saix (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

Set up an example article. I think it looks adequate when it comes to article length, especially since now the trend is for longer and more continuity-dense strips. Saix (talk) 19:48, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

I think I like individual articles. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 20:08, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

I'll third the notion of giving each chapter its own article. (Though, as a sidenote, I also kinda wish we'd use "manga" instead of "comic" in this article's title since we've traditionally used such to differentiate between comics of Western origin and those of Japanese origin.) --Sabrblade (talk) 21:19, 26 August 2016 (EDT)

I too think a split is for the best by now, since Legends shows no sign of ending any time soon. --Apoc (talk) 01:09, 27 August 2016 (EDT)

Article title and labeling

Why is it that we don't call this a manga? It's even written right to left. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 01:40, 27 August 2016 (EDT)

Poke. Is there any opposition to re-titling the pages in accordance with our policies? The Bonus Editions even have "漫画" on the page! S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2016 (EDT)

I'm opposed to the pointless usage of "manga" instead of "comic". But if that is what we've been doing....--Khajidha (talk) 10:35, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

There's not much point to changing it outside of weebing. Manga is comics. --M Sipher (talk) 13:47, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

Consistency and uniformity with other Japanese comic articles on this Wiki that use "manga" in their titles? --Sabrblade (talk) 23:22, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

Why not change them to "comic"? --Khajidha (talk) 06:24, 1 November 2016 (EDT)

Why are they "manga" in the first place? Actual consistency would to have them all be "comic". We don't weeb it up and say "the Headmasters anime" or "Punch UFO is a seiyū". Saix (talk) 11:59, 2 November 2016 (EDT)

I dunno. That was decided before my time, but I like it. Suppose that Transformers was principally divided between the U.S. and Latin America, and Transformers TV series were either English-language serial dramas or telenovelas. In such a scenario wouldn't it be useful to delineate between works produced under English-language auspices versus Spanish-language auspices? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 12:09, 2 November 2016 (EDT)

I really can't see a need for that as a category level thing. The fact that the first line has the original language title listed is enough for me. And why does this article use the Japanese word "otaku"? --Khajidha (talk) 12:16, 2 November 2016 (EDT)

I also can't understand why we need a manga article. I mean, we don't have a [[comic book]] article. --Khajidha (talk) 12:29, 2 November 2016 (EDT)

Considering that even American companies use the word "Manga" to distinguish Japanese-original comics from Western ones (i.e. - Barnes and Noble, Books-A-Million, and other bookstores have an entire section for Japanese comics that's labeled as the "Manga" section), is it really so offensive that several of this Wiki's original contributors who devoted much of their time and effort into covering the Japanese side of the Transformers brand (i.e. - DrSpengler, Lonergamer78, Chris McFeely, etc.) opted to go with "manga" as the term to distinguish the Japanese TF comics covered on this Wiki from the Western TF comics? Whether ya'll like it or not, the word "manga" has been integrated into the English language to refer to Japanese comics in an official Western publishing capacity. It is not "weeabooish" for a Westerner to refer to Japanese comics as "manga". What would be "weeabooish" would be for a Westerner to refer to all comics of any national origin as "manga" (because "that is the Japanese way!"). --Sabrblade (talk) 23:27, 10 November 2016 (EST)

Although I don't maintain the manga sections of this site so much anymore, I figured I'd chime in since I helped shape the manga articles and indexes in the formative years of TFWiki. A lot has changed since 2007 when I started putting the manga info together for the site, so I'm not really sure if the divide between "comics" and "manga" stands as much now as it did then. And even then, it was muddy enough that we chose not to impose such a divide. Currently, we've got comics by Western artists and writers (Furman and Guidi) that have been published exclusively in Japan (so are they "manga"?), and comics by Japanese artists (Sakamoto, Tsushima) published exclusively in West (so are they "comic books"?). The dividing line between the two is murkier now than it was in 2007 because we have more cross-pollination going on. We decided early not to make such differentiations because even then it seemed asinine (remember when the Headmasters and Masterforce cartoons had "(anime)" clarifiers? How long did those last?). We maintained the manga article as a convenient index of all Transformers comics published in Japan by generation, and I always felt that was enough. If someone wanted to find something they felt qualified as "manga", they could use that page. Otherwise, it's all just comics same as it's all just cartoons. We didn't divide them 10 years ago because there was too much overlap to define what made a comic qualify as one or the other, and now there's even MORE overlap so it seems less reasonable to segregate them. We keep it up and we'll go back to "Headmasters (anime)" and "Masterforce (anime)" and I never thought that was a good idea. We don't ignore the existence of the term "manga" or that there are elements to it that makes it distinct from Western comics (again, that's why we had the manga article), but we don't make lines in the sand to arbitrarily impose our own criteria as to what makes something a manga and what makes it a comic. They're all just comics here. But that was 2007. Things have changed, so do what you will. --DrSpengler (talk) 09:56, 11 November 2016 (EST)

I gather from this discussion, "There isn't much point to it, but it is something which is so on the wiki." Hence, I favor changing this and associated articles to match our policy. Any objections? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 22:28, 29 November 2016 (EST)

Still feel like it's pointless furniture-shifting. Change them all to "comics" if it really bothers you. Saix (talk) 22:37, 29 November 2016 (EST)

EX labeling?

There are a handful of LG-EX issues that all just look like the same EX on this list. Can we just name those after their toys? --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

Controversy section

We're almost two years out from Legends being over now, and with that hindsight in mind, I feel like we should probably add a "controversy" section a la Kiss Players. As it stands now we only have some snarky captions, but I do feel it's worth going into with more detail. Escargon (talk) 12:23, 21 April 2021 (EDT)

Well if there's not gonna be any objections, I'll just go ahead and do it myself. Escargon (talk) 06:50, 22 June 2021 (EDT)

I'd agree with this - even if it cleaned up its act later on, Legends had some nasty stuff in there - but make a sandbox first before taking it live. --Riptide (talk) 07:06, 22 June 2021 (EDT)

On second thought: I don't have the emotional capacity to look through a bunch of grody stuff and write up about it. Escargon (talk) 07:39, 22 June 2021 (EDT)

I think I'm going to take a stab at it, if that's alright with everyone. I think it's worth including. TransFormersfan1 (talk) 10:57, 16 December 2022 (EST)