Talk:Heavy Load (Universe)

Mixmaster? Is that you?

Heavy Load's bio Decepticon chemist gone slowly mad by his own projects, used to be sorta different? Sounds like this dude's Mixmaster to me. --ItsWalky 01:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I had the same thought, but I'm not sure what to do with it. Are we talking about putting his info on Mixmaster's page the way that Tankor is on Octane's? With the latter, we have a lot more confirmation - right up to the Club mag explicitly saying he's the same guy. But Heavy Load may as well have been G1 Quickmix, for all we know. - Jackpot 01:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Eh, Quickmix wasn't always a Decepticon chemist. "Cement mixer Decepticon chemist who's not quite all there" has always been Mixmaster's thing. And he's missing from Classics Devastator, an absence called out in the fiction. --ItsWalky 02:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

"Optimizing fuel mixtures to increase the energy efficiency of all mechanoid life" sounds suspiciously non-Decepticonny to me. I know that same sentence describes him as "Decepticon Heavy Load," but that could just be an awkward reference to his present status (plus it's his trademarked name, so...) Now, I totally hear you with the missing-Constructicon thing - it was likewise the initial thought I had. Hell, I'd be tickled pink if the Club fiction DID give him that backstory. But until they do, I'd say all bets are off. - Jackpot 02:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Move to "Heavy Load (Classics)"?

I just brought this up over on Talk:Universe (franchise), but this is a good, concrete example. Since the Universe Classics guys have a "Classic Series" label on their bios, I think that's good enough reason to identify them as primarily Classics characters, not Universe (2008). It's more informative. Not only is the term "Universe" laden with a sprawling, vague history, but the 2008 line is ALREADY split between Classics and Robot Heroes. - Jackpot 02:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I really disagree. "Classics Series" is a subline, if anything, of Universe. It's like moving Scavenger (BW) to Scavenger (Transmetals). The continuity note can be made to be more specific ("the Classics portion of Universe") , but the article stays. —Interrobang 02:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That's not unheard of. We have the likes of Long Haul (Micromaster), after all. The reasoning behind that was different, yes, but I think this new situation also calls for an exception. "Universe" as a franchise is so diffuse and definition-less, I don't think we should give it the weight of creating splits in how we label the other franchises it subsumes. There is no fictional or conceptual break between these new toys called "Classics" and the old ones (likewise with Robot Heroes, for that matter). Making the Universe jump our primary label does a disservice to readers who should be getting the most relevant information, not the most pedantic. - Jackpot 02:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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